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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/26] vfio: KVM: Pass get/put helpers from KVM to VFIO, don't do circular lookup
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 13:02:58 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230918160258.GL13795@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZQhxpesyXeG+qbS6@google.com>

On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 08:49:57AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2023, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 05:30:57PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > Explicitly pass KVM's get/put helpers to VFIO when attaching a VM to
> > > VFIO instead of having VFIO do a symbol lookup back into KVM.  Having both
> > > KVM and VFIO do symbol lookups increases the overall complexity and places
> > > an unnecessary dependency on KVM (from VFIO) without adding any value.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> > > ---
> > >  drivers/vfio/vfio.h      |  2 ++
> > >  drivers/vfio/vfio_main.c | 74 +++++++++++++++++++---------------------
> > >  include/linux/vfio.h     |  4 ++-
> > >  virt/kvm/vfio.c          |  9 +++--
> > >  4 files changed, 47 insertions(+), 42 deletions(-)
> > 
> > I don't mind this, but Christoph had disliked my prior attempt to do
> > this with function pointers..
> > 
> > The get can be inlined, IIRC, what about putting a pointer to the put
> > inside the kvm struct?
> 
> That wouldn't allow us to achieve our goal, which is to hide the details of
> "struct kvm" from VFIO (and the rest of the kernel).

> What's the objection to handing VFIO a function pointer?

Hmm, looks like it was this thread:

 https://lore.kernel.org/r/0-v1-33906a626da1+16b0-vfio_kvm_no_group_jgg@nvidia.com

Your rational looks a little better to me.

> > The the normal kvm get/put don't have to exported symbols at all?
> 
> The export of kvm_get_kvm_safe() can go away (I forgot to do that in this series),
> but kvm_get_kvm() will hang around as it's needed by KVM sub-modules (PPC and x86),
> KVMGT (x86), and drivers/s390/crypto/vfio_ap_ops.c (no idea what to call that beast).

My thought would be to keep it as an inline, there should be some way
to do that without breaking your desire to hide the bulk of the kvm
struct content. Like put the refcount as the first element in the
struct and just don't ifdef it away?.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-18 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-16  0:30 [PATCH 00/26] KVM: vfio: Hide KVM internals from others Sean Christopherson
2023-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 01/26] vfio: Wrap KVM helpers with CONFIG_KVM instead of CONFIG_HAVE_KVM Sean Christopherson
2023-09-18 15:16   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-28 22:21   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 02/26] vfio: Move KVM get/put helpers to colocate it with other KVM related code Sean Christopherson
2023-09-18 15:17   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-28 22:21   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 03/26] virt: Declare and define vfio_file_set_kvm() iff CONFIG_KVM is enabled Sean Christopherson
2023-09-18 15:18   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-28 22:21   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 04/26] vfio: Add struct to hold KVM assets and dedup group vs. iommufd code Sean Christopherson
2023-09-28 22:21   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 05/26] vfio: KVM: Pass get/put helpers from KVM to VFIO, don't do circular lookup Sean Christopherson
2023-09-18 15:21   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-18 15:49     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-18 16:02       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-12-02  0:51         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-12-03 14:07           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-13  2:22             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-28 22:21   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 06/26] KVM: Drop CONFIG_KVM_VFIO and just look at KVM+VFIO Sean Christopherson
2023-09-18 15:29   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-18 15:52     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-18 16:17       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-28 22:21   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-16  0:30 ` [PATCH 07/26] x86/idt: Wrap KVM logic with CONFIG_KVM instead of CONFIG_HAVE_KVM Sean Christopherson
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 08/26] KVM: x86: Stop selecting and depending on HAVE_KVM Sean Christopherson
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 09/26] KVM: arm64: " Sean Christopherson
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 10/26] KVM: s390: " Sean Christopherson
2023-09-18 13:38   ` Claudio Imbrenda
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 11/26] KVM: MIPS: Make HAVE_KVM a MIPS-only Kconfig Sean Christopherson
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 12/26] KVM: arm64: Move arm_{psci,hypercalls}.h to an internal KVM path Sean Christopherson
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 13/26] KVM: arm64: Include KVM headers to get forward declarations Sean Christopherson
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 14/26] KVM: arm64: Move ARM specific headers in include/kvm to arch directory Sean Christopherson
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 15/26] KVM: Move include/kvm/iodev.h to include/linux as kvm_iodev.h Sean Christopherson
2023-12-14  6:02   ` Anup Patel
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 16/26] KVM: MIPS: Stop adding virt/kvm to the arch include path Sean Christopherson
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 17/26] KVM: PPC: " Sean Christopherson
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 18/26] KVM: s390: " Sean Christopherson
2023-09-18  6:56   ` Thomas Huth
2023-09-18 13:38   ` Claudio Imbrenda
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 19/26] KVM: Standardize include paths across all architectures Sean Christopherson
2023-12-14  6:04   ` Anup Patel
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 20/26] perf/x86: KVM: Have perf define a dedicated struct for getting guest PEBS data Sean Christopherson
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 21/26] entry/kvm: Drop @vcpu param from arch_xfer_to_guest_mode_handle_work() Sean Christopherson
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 22/26] entry/kvm: KVM: Move KVM details related to signal/-EINTR into KVM proper Sean Christopherson
2023-12-14  6:13   ` Anup Patel
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 23/26] KVM: arm64: Move and consolidate "public" functions in asm/kvm_host.h Sean Christopherson
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 24/26] powerpc/xics: Move declaration of xics_wake_cpu() out of kvm_ppc.h Sean Christopherson
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 25/26] KVM: PPC: Rearrange code in kvm_ppc.h to isolate "public" information Sean Christopherson
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 26/26] KVM: Hide KVM internal data structures and values from kernel at-large Sean Christopherson
2023-12-14  6:20   ` Anup Patel
2024-06-20 10:10 ` [PATCH 00/26] KVM: vfio: Hide KVM internals from others Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-06-24 15:32   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-24 19:21     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi

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