From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
Cc: Swapnil Sapkal <swapnil.sapkal@amd.com>,
ravi.bangoria@amd.com, mark.rutland@arm.com,
alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, jolsa@kernel.org,
rostedt@goodmis.org, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
adrian.hunter@intel.com, kan.liang@linux.intel.com,
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ak@linux.intel.com, yujie.liu@intel.com, graham.woodward@arm.com,
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tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, linux@treblig.org,
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james.clark@arm.com, acme@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/10] perf sched: Introduce stats tool
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2026 17:33:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260121163342.GI166857@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6a434657-5b5b-41ec-a79a-c648c2829602@intel.com>
On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 12:09:25AM +0800, Chen, Yu C wrote:
> On 1/20/2026 1:58 AM, Swapnil Sapkal wrote:
> > MOTIVATION
> > ----------
> >
> > Existing `perf sched` is quite exhaustive and provides lot of insights
> > into scheduler behavior but it quickly becomes impractical to use for
> > long running or scheduler intensive workload. For ex, `perf sched record`
> > has ~7.77% overhead on hackbench (with 25 groups each running 700K loops
> > on a 2-socket 128 Cores 256 Threads 3rd Generation EPYC Server), and it
> > generates huge 56G perf.data for which perf takes ~137 mins to prepare
> > and write it to disk [1].
> >
> > Unlike `perf sched record`, which hooks onto set of scheduler tracepoints
> > and generates samples on a tracepoint hit, `perf sched stats record` takes
> > snapshot of the /proc/schedstat file before and after the workload, i.e.
> > there is almost zero interference on workload run. Also, it takes very
> > minimal time to parse /proc/schedstat, convert it into perf samples and
> > save those samples into perf.data file. Result perf.data file is much
> > smaller. So, overall `perf sched stats record` is much more light weight
> > compare to `perf sched record`.
> >
> > We, internally at AMD, have been using this (a variant of this, known as
> > "sched-scoreboard"[2]) and found it to be very useful to analyse impact
> > of any scheduler code changes[3][4]. Prateek used v2[5] of this patch
> > series to report the analysis[6][7].
> >
> > Please note that, this is not a replacement of perf sched record/report.
> > The intended users of the new tool are scheduler developers, not regular
> > users.
> >
> > USAGE
> > -----
> >
> > # perf sched stats record
> > # perf sched stats report
> > # perf sched stats diff
> >
> > Note: Although `perf sched stats` tool supports workload profiling syntax
> > (i.e. -- <workload> ), the recorded profile is still systemwide since the
> > /proc/schedstat is a systemwide file.
> >
>
> I found this is useful for load balance analysis on my
> 384 CPUs system with 6.19.0-rc1, please feel free to add
>
> Tested-by: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
Yeah, I've used a previous version for a while, was very nice.
Acked-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-21 16:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-19 17:58 [PATCH v5 00/10] perf sched: Introduce stats tool Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] tools/lib: Add list_is_first() Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] perf header: Support CPU DOMAIN relation info Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-21 17:18 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-01-23 15:19 ` Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-23 16:31 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-01-26 14:46 ` kernel test robot
2026-01-26 17:12 ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-27 2:46 ` Oliver Sang
2026-01-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] perf sched stats: Add record and rawdump support Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] perf sched stats: Add schedstat v16 support Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] perf sched stats: Add schedstat v17 support Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] perf sched stats: Add support for report subcommand Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] perf sched stats: Add support for live mode Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-22 0:54 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-01-22 1:32 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-01-22 15:34 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-01-22 15:42 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-03-03 18:47 ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-10 10:08 ` Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] perf sched stats: Add support for diff subcommand Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] perf sched stats: Add basic perf sched stats test Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] perf sched stats: Add details in man page Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-21 16:09 ` [PATCH v5 00/10] perf sched: Introduce stats tool Chen, Yu C
2026-01-21 16:33 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-01-21 17:12 ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-21 19:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-21 20:08 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-01-21 20:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-22 16:00 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-01-23 16:32 ` Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-23 16:37 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-01-23 16:42 ` Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-21 17:52 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-01-23 16:19 ` Swapnil Sapkal
2026-01-21 22:59 ` Namhyung Kim
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