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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] perf build: Revert "enable -fno-strict-aliasing"
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2026 00:30:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260313233055.GD2872@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fXneV5fawTncLH13p_8-9OAxwpTERXk5ty=8m0s8U1ANg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 04, 2025 at 02:33:24PM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 1:59 PM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 04, 2025 at 10:41:17PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 04, 2025 at 10:44:30AM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> > > > This reverts commit 55a18d2f3ff7 ("perf build: enable
> > > > -fno-strict-aliasing"). With (get|put)_unaligned_* using memcpy
> > > > -fno-strict-aliasing is no longer necessary as memcpys are assumed to
> > > > possibly alias.
> > >
> > > I don't think this is a good idea. Much of tools/ includes kernel
> > > headers and various kernel code, all of which is written in the
> > > understanding that this (often called broken) C language feature does
> > > not exist.
> > >
> > > As such, I would strongly suggest all of tools is built with
> > > -fno-strict-aliasing.
> >
> > Similarly I would strongly suggest having -fwrapv on all code that
> > includes kernel headers.
> 
> Given we can build and run with sanitizers, ubsan covers fwrapv and
> type sanitizer is in development to detect strict aliasing violations.
> So we can have correct code without hamstringing the compiler.
> 
> There's lots wrong with C, a particular favorite of mine is:
> ```
> void foo(const int *p) {
>    int x = *p;
>    if (x == 10) {
>       mutex_lock(&global_mutex);
>       if (x == 10) {
>           // Code should always run ...
> ```
> The compiler can save registers by re-loading from p in the code
> above, meaning the second "if" may not always run.

mutex_lock() should imply barrier() which should very much inhibit this.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-13 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-04 17:44 [PATCH v1] perf build: Revert "enable -fno-strict-aliasing" Ian Rogers
2025-09-04 20:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-04 20:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-04 21:33     ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-12 20:58       ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-13 21:17         ` Namhyung Kim
2026-03-20 22:42           ` [PATCH v2] " Ian Rogers
2026-03-21  2:49             ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-13 23:30       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]

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