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From: Milian Wolff <mail@milianw.de>
To: linux-perf-users <linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Perf event for Wall-time based sampling?
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:32:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2221771.b2oSN5LR6X@milian-kdab2> (raw)

Hello,

is it somehow possible to use perf based on some kernel timer? I'd like to get 
an overview of where a userspace application is spending time, both on-CPU as 
well as waiting off-CPU. E.g. something similar to using GDB as a poor-mans 
profiler and regularly interrupting the process and investigating the 
callgraphs. This is quite efficient for a high-level overview when you want to 
figure out where time is spent, unrelated to how it was actually spent (cpu, 
thread locks, io wait, ...).

E.g. what event would I use for a simple application like this:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
#include <unistd.h>

int main()
{
  sleep(10);
  return 0;
}
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Which perf event would show me that most of the time is spent sleeping? I 
tried something like this to no avail:

$ perf record --call-graph dwarf -e cpu-clock -F 100 ./a.out 
[ perf record: Woken up 1 times to write data ]
[ perf record: Captured and wrote 0.007 MB perf.data (~304 samples) ]
perf report --stdio
Error:
The perf.data file has no samples!
# To display the perf.data header info, please use --header/--header-only 
options.

I read https://perf.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Tutorial#Profiling_sleep_times
and tried it out. The result is odd, as I get the "same" backtrace multiple 
times, all with 100% cost:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   100.00%     0.00%             0    a.out  libc-2.19.so       [.] 
__GI___libc_nanosleep
              |
              --- __GI___libc_nanosleep

   100.00%     0.00%             0    a.out  [kernel.kallsyms]  [k] 
system_call_fastpath 
              |
              --- system_call_fastpath
                  __GI___libc_nanosleep

   100.00%     0.00%             0    a.out  [kernel.kallsyms]  [k] 
sys_nanosleep        
              |
              --- sys_nanosleep
                  system_call_fastpath
                  __GI___libc_nanosleep

   100.00%     0.00%             0    a.out  [kernel.kallsyms]  [k] 
hrtimer_nanosleep    
              |
              --- hrtimer_nanosleep
                  sys_nanosleep
                  system_call_fastpath
                  __GI___libc_nanosleep
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And generally, this would *only* profile sleep time and would ignore the on-
CPU time (and maybe thread waits) and so forth.

Is there a technical reason on why it is not possible to use a plain timer as 
a sampling event? If I'm not mistaken, then Intel VTune actually uses a 
similar technique for its simple profiling modes which can already give 
extremely useful data - both to find CPU hotspots as well as locks&waits.

Bye
-- 
Milian Wolff
mail@milianw.de
http://milianw.de

             reply	other threads:[~2014-09-18 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-18 12:32 Milian Wolff [this message]
2014-09-18 13:23 ` Perf event for Wall-time based sampling? Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-18 13:41   ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-18 14:51     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-18 15:26       ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-18 15:57         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-18 16:37           ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-18 19:17             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-18 19:31               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-18 20:17               ` David Ahern
2014-09-18 20:36                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-18 20:39                   ` David Ahern
2014-09-19  8:11                   ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-19  9:08                     ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-19 14:47                     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-19 15:04                       ` David Ahern
2014-09-19 15:05                       ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-19 14:17                   ` David Ahern
2014-09-19 14:39                     ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-19 14:55                       ` David Ahern
2014-09-19  5:59               ` Namhyung Kim
2014-09-19 14:33                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-19 14:53                   ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-19 15:50                     ` Namhyung Kim
2014-09-22  7:56                 ` Namhyung Kim

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