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From: "Mi, Dapeng" <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Eranian Stephane <eranian@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	Dapeng Mi <dapeng1.mi@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch v3 16/22] perf/core: Support to capture higher width vector registers
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 14:42:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <26799b7e-c3a6-4de2-afd1-7bda0639fa37@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250415143626.GF4031@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>


On 4/15/2025 10:36 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:44:22AM +0000, Dapeng Mi wrote:
>>  extern unsigned long perf_arch_instruction_pointer(struct pt_regs *regs);
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/perf_regs.h b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/perf_regs.h
>> index f9c5b16b1882..5e2d9796b2cc 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/perf_regs.h
>> +++ b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/perf_regs.h
>> @@ -33,7 +33,7 @@ enum perf_event_x86_regs {
>>  	PERF_REG_X86_32_MAX = PERF_REG_X86_GS + 1,
>>  	PERF_REG_X86_64_MAX = PERF_REG_X86_SSP + 1,
>>  
>> -	/* These all need two bits set because they are 128bit */
>> +	/* These all need two bits set because they are 128 bits */
>>  	PERF_REG_X86_XMM0  = 32,
>>  	PERF_REG_X86_XMM1  = 34,
>>  	PERF_REG_X86_XMM2  = 36,
>> @@ -53,6 +53,83 @@ enum perf_event_x86_regs {
>>  
>>  	/* These include both GPRs and XMMX registers */
>>  	PERF_REG_X86_XMM_MAX = PERF_REG_X86_XMM15 + 2,
>> +
>> +	/* Leave bits[127:64] for other GP registers, like R16 ~ R31.*/
>> +
>> +	/*
>> +	 * Each YMM register need 4 bits to represent because they are 256 bits.
>> +	 * PERF_REG_X86_YMMH0 = 128
>> +	 */
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM0	= 128,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM1	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM0 + 4,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM2	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM1 + 4,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM3	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM2 + 4,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM4	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM3 + 4,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM5	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM4 + 4,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM6	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM5 + 4,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM7	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM6 + 4,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM8	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM7 + 4,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM9	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM8 + 4,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM10	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM9 + 4,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM11	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM10 + 4,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM12	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM11 + 4,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM13	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM12 + 4,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM14	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM13 + 4,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM15	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM14 + 4,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_YMM_MAX	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM15 + 4,
>> +
>> +	/*
>> +	 * Each ZMM register needs 8 bits to represent because they are 512 bits
>> +	 * PERF_REG_X86_ZMMH0 = 192
>> +	 */
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM0	= PERF_REG_X86_YMM_MAX,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM1	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM0 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM2	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM1 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM3	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM2 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM4	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM3 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM5	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM4 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM6	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM5 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM7	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM6 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM8	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM7 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM9	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM8 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM10	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM9 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM11	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM10 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM12	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM11 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM13	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM12 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM14	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM13 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM15	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM14 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM16	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM15 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM17	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM16 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM18	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM17 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM19	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM18 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM20	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM19 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM21	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM20 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM22	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM21 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM23	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM22 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM24	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM23 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM25	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM24 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM26	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM25 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM27	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM26 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM28	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM27 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM29	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM28 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM30	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM29 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM31	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM30 + 8,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_ZMM_MAX	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM31 + 8,
>> +
>> +	/*
>> +	 * OPMASK Registers
>> +	 * PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK0 = 448
>> +	 */
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK0	= PERF_REG_X86_ZMM_MAX,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK1	= PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK0 + 1,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK2	= PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK1 + 1,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK3	= PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK2 + 1,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK4	= PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK3 + 1,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK5	= PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK4 + 1,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK6	= PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK5 + 1,
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK7	= PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK6 + 1,
>> +
>> +	PERF_REG_X86_VEC_MAX	= PERF_REG_X86_OPMASK7 + 1,
>>  };
>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h b/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h
>> index 5fc753c23734..78aae0464a54 100644
>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h
>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h
>> @@ -379,6 +379,10 @@ enum perf_event_read_format {
>>  #define PERF_ATTR_SIZE_VER6	120	/* add: aux_sample_size */
>>  #define PERF_ATTR_SIZE_VER7	128	/* add: sig_data */
>>  #define PERF_ATTR_SIZE_VER8	136	/* add: config3 */
>> +#define PERF_ATTR_SIZE_VER9	168	/* add: sample_regs_intr_ext[PERF_EXT_REGS_ARRAY_SIZE] */
>> +
>> +#define PERF_EXT_REGS_ARRAY_SIZE	7
>> +#define PERF_NUM_EXT_REGS		(PERF_EXT_REGS_ARRAY_SIZE * 64)
>>  
>>  /*
>>   * Hardware event_id to monitor via a performance monitoring event:
>> @@ -533,6 +537,13 @@ struct perf_event_attr {
>>  	__u64	sig_data;
>>  
>>  	__u64	config3; /* extension of config2 */
>> +
>> +	/*
>> +	 * Extension sets of regs to dump for each sample.
>> +	 * See asm/perf_regs.h for details.
>> +	 */
>> +	__u64	sample_regs_intr_ext[PERF_EXT_REGS_ARRAY_SIZE];
>> +	__u64   sample_regs_user_ext[PERF_EXT_REGS_ARRAY_SIZE];
>>  };
>>  
>>  /*
> I still utterly hate this interface. This is a giant waste of bits.
>
> What makes it even worse is that XMMn is the lower half of YMMn which in
> turn is the lower half of ZMMn.
>
> So by exposing only ZMMn you already expose all of them. The interface
> explicitly allows asking for sub-words.
>
> But most importantly of all, last time I asked if there are users that
> actually care about the whole per-register thing and I don't see an
> answer here.
>
> Can we please find a better interface? Ideally one that scales up to
> 1024 and 2048 bit vector width, because I'd hate to have to rev this
> again.
>
> Perhaps add sample_vec_regs_*[] with a saner format, and if that is !0
> then the XMM regs dissapear from sample_regs_*[] and we get to use that
> space to extended GPs.

Just think twice, using bitmap to represent these extended registers indeed
wastes bits and is hard to extend, there could be much much more vector
registers if considering AMX.

Considering different arch/HW may support different number vector register,
like platform A supports 8 XMM registers and 8 YMM registers, but platform
B only supports 16 XMM registers, a better way to represent these vector
registers may add two fields, one is a bitmap which represents which kinds
of vector registers needs to be captures. The other field could be a u16
array which represents the corresponding register length of each kind of
vector register. It may look like this.

#define    PERF_SAMPLE_EXT_REGS_XMM    BIT(0)
#define    PERF_SAMPLE_EXT_REGS_YMM    BIT(1)
#define    PERF_SAMPLE_EXT_REGS_ZMM    BIT(2)
    __u32    sample_regs_intr_ext;
    __u16    sample_regs_intr_ext_len[4];
    __u32    sample_regs_user_ext;

    __u16    sample_regs_user_ext_len[4];


Peter, how do you think this? Thanks.



  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-16  6:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-15 11:44 [Patch v3 00/22] Arch-PEBS and PMU supports for Clearwater Forest and Panther Lake Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 01/22] perf/x86/intel: Add Panther Lake support Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 02/22] perf/x86/intel: Add PMU support for Clearwater Forest Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 03/22] perf/x86/intel: Parse CPUID archPerfmonExt leaves for non-hybrid CPUs Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 04/22] perf/x86/intel: Decouple BTS initialization from PEBS initialization Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 05/22] perf/x86/intel: Rename x86_pmu.pebs to x86_pmu.ds_pebs Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 06/22] perf/x86/intel: Introduce pairs of PEBS static calls Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 07/22] perf/x86/intel: Initialize architectural PEBS Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 08/22] perf/x86/intel/ds: Factor out PEBS record processing code to functions Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 09/22] perf/x86/intel/ds: Factor out PEBS group " Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 10/22] perf/x86/intel: Process arch-PEBS records or record fragments Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 13:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-15 16:09     ` Liang, Kan
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 11/22] perf/x86/intel: Allocate arch-PEBS buffer and initialize PEBS_BASE MSR Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 13:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-16  0:59     ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-04-15 13:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-16  1:03     ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 12/22] perf/x86/intel: Update dyn_constranit base on PEBS event precise level Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 13:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-15 16:31     ` Liang, Kan
2025-04-16  1:46       ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-04-16 13:59         ` Liang, Kan
2025-04-17  1:15           ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-04-16 15:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-16 19:45         ` Liang, Kan
2025-04-16 19:56           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-22 22:50             ` Liang, Kan
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 13/22] perf/x86/intel: Setup PEBS data configuration and enable legacy groups Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 14/22] perf/x86/intel: Add counter group support for arch-PEBS Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 15/22] perf/x86/intel: Support SSP register capturing " Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 14:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-16  5:49     ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 16/22] perf/core: Support to capture higher width vector registers Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 14:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-16  6:42     ` Mi, Dapeng [this message]
2025-04-16 15:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-17  2:00         ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-04-22  3:05         ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 17/22] perf/x86/intel: Support arch-PEBS vector registers group capturing Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 18/22] perf tools: Support to show SSP register Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 19/22] perf tools: Enhance arch__intr/user_reg_mask() helpers Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 20/22] perf tools: Enhance sample_regs_user/intr to capture more registers Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 21/22] perf tools: Support to capture more vector registers (x86/Intel) Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 22/22] perf tools/tests: Add vector registers PEBS sampling test Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 15:21 ` [Patch v3 00/22] Arch-PEBS and PMU supports for Clearwater Forest and Panther Lake Liang, Kan
2025-04-16  7:42   ` Peter Zijlstra

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