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From: Xing Zhengjun <zhengjun.xing@linux.intel.com>
To: Michael Petlan <mpetlan@redhat.com>, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: perf :: intel hybrid events (fwd)
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 11:09:37 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <39655f8f-5526-e75f-a133-7696f3e718a5@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.20.2204131302230.29735@Diego>



I tried the will-it-scale write1 workload,  mem-stores:p works OK on 
ADL, it looks like the issue is related to the test workload.

will-it-scale:  https://github.com/antonblanchard/will-it-scale.git

# perf record -e mem-stores:p -- ./runtest.py write1
tasks,processes,processes_idle,threads,threads_idle,linear
0,0,100,0,100,0
1,2346709,96.88,2257694,96.88,2346709
^C[ perf record: Woken up 6 times to write data ]
[ perf record: Captured and wrote 1.491 MB perf.data (31612 samples) ]


On 4/13/2022 7:16 PM, Michael Petlan wrote:
> Forwarding the questions to perf-users...
> 
> Also, I have found out that mem-stores:p event does not work on
> Intel Alderlake:
> 
> # perf record -e mem-stores -- ./examples/dummy > /dev/null
> [ perf record: Woken up 1 times to write data ]
> [ perf record: Captured and wrote 0.024 MB perf.data (64 samples) ]
> 
> While with precise, it records nothing:
> 
> # perf record -e mem-stores:p -- ./examples/dummy > /dev/null
> [ perf record: Woken up 1 times to write data ]
> [ perf record: Captured and wrote 0.021 MB perf.data ]
> 
> This makes the perf-mem and perf-c2c commands less useful.
> 
> Again, is this how it is supposed to work or do I miss some fixes?
> Or does upstream also miss some fixes?
> 
> Thanks.
> Michael
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2022 22:59:11
> From: Michael Petlan <mpetlan@redhat.com>
> To: yao.jin@linux.intel.com
> Subject: perf :: intel hybrid events
> 
> Hello Jin Yao,
> 
> I have a few questions/ideas about hybrid events on Alderlake...
> 
> 
> 1) L1-{d,i}cache-load{,-misse}s supported partially
> 
> Interestingly enough, perf offers the following events in the hwcache set:
> 
> L1-dcache-load-misses
> L1-dcache-loads
> L1-icache-load-misses
> L1-icache-loads
> 
> Of course, each expands to its cpu_core and cpu_atom version, as following:
> 
> # perf stat -e L1-icache-load-misses
> ^C
>   Performance counter stats for 'system wide':
>             146,566      cpu_core/L1-icache-load-misses/
>             164,971      cpu_atom/L1-icache-load-misses/
> 
> On my Alderlake testing box with RHEL-9 I see the following support pattern:
> 
>                           |  cpu_core  |  cpu_atom  |
> L1-dcache-load-misses    |     OK     |     N/A    |
> L1-dcache-loads          |     OK     |     OK     |
> L1-icache-load-misses    |     OK     |     OK     |
> L1-icache-loads          |     N/A    |     OK     |
> 
> For dcache, loads are supported on both, while misses do not work on atom.
> That can be, atom is simpler, thus I can expect it missing some events...
> 
> For icache, misses are supported on both, while loads do not work on core.
> This looks weird, is that really the wanted behavior? Isn't there a bug in
> the drivers/event specifications?
> 
> 
> 2) You added --cputype switch to perf-stat via e69dc84282fb474cb87097c6c94
> so one can restrict the expansion and keep only one cpu type used. Doesn't
> perf-record need the same?
> 
> 
> 3) While perf-stat defaults to "use whatever we can" approach when not every
> event is supported, puts "<not supported>" into the results, perf-record
> fails. This is bad for the cases like above, since it fails when one of the
> events aren't supported. That might make sense if the unsupported event was
> specified explicitly by the user, e.g. `perf record -e AA -e BB -- ./load`
> and perf fails "sorry, I don't support event BB".
> 
> However, what if the user just wants L1-dcache-load-misses and encounters
> perf-record failing just because the event is not supported on Atom?
> 
> Shouldn't this behavior be fixed by some --tolerant switch that would ignore
> the problems and record what is going on on the Core at least?
> 
> 
> What are your ideas?
> Thanks...
> 
> Michael
> 

-- 
Zhengjun Xing

      parent reply	other threads:[~2022-10-09  3:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-13 11:16 perf :: intel hybrid events (fwd) Michael Petlan
     [not found] ` <CA+JHD92zy1iOkok57goXrhjOmri+fZXRhOoNGzwBW+t_a84etw@mail.gmail.com>
2022-04-13 13:27   ` Fwd: " Liang, Kan
2022-04-15  3:14     ` Xing Zhengjun
2022-10-09  3:09 ` Xing Zhengjun [this message]

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