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From: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
To: "Wang, Wei W" <wei.w.wang@intel.com>,
	"Li, Xiaoyao" <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	"Christopherson,, Sean" <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] perf/x86/intel/pt: Introduce and export pt_get_curr_event()
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 11:32:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4320bb19-b206-97b6-4eae-093c9d815ba0@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DS0PR11MB6373C84139621DC447D3F466DC4E9@DS0PR11MB6373.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>



On 2022-09-22 8:58 a.m., Wang, Wei W wrote:
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 8:34 PM, Liang, Kan wrote:
>>> To solve the problem, introduce and export pt_get_curr_event() for KVM
>>> to get current pt event.
>>
>> I don't think the current pt event is created by KVM. IIUC, the patch basically
>> expose the event created by the other user to KVM. That doesn't sounds
>> correct.
> 
> Yes, that's the host PT event running on the current CPU. Not created by KVM.
> 
>>
>> I think it should be perf's responsibility to decide which events should be
>> disabled, and which MSRs should be switched. Because only perf can see all the
>> events. The users should only see the events they created.
> 
> For other pmu cases, yes. For PT, its management is simpler than other pmu
> resources and PT PMU is much simpler. It doesn't have a scheduler to manage
> events.
>

Right, but I think we'd better to create a simpler scheduler (just for
two events) in the PT driver, since you have two co-existing PT events
now, one is from the host and the other is from the guest. I don't think
it's KVM's responsibility to schedule events.

So I think the process should be something as below.

- Let KVM create a PT event if the guest request one.
- In VM-entry, just invoke the perf_event_enable_local(guest).
  The PT driver should schedule out the host event or whatever events
and schedule in the guest event.
- In VM-exit, just invoke the perf_event_disable_local(guest).
  The PT driver should schedule in the host event or whatever events and
schedule out the guest event.

I still don't think we want to expose the host event.

Thanks,
Kan

> I think the usage here is similar to the CPU thread scheduling case. When we have
> CPUs isolated from the CPU scheduler, i.e. no scheduler for those CPUs, basically
> we rely on users to ping tasks to those CPUs (e.g. taskset).
> 
> For the commit log, probably we don't need those KVM details here. Simplify a bit:
> 
> Add a function to expose the current running PT event to users. One usage is in KVM,
> it needs to get and disable the running host PT event before VMEnter to the guest and
> resumes the event after VMexit to host.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-26 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-21 16:45 [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] KVM: VMX: Fix VM entry failure on PT_MODE_HOST_GUEST while host is using PT Xiaoyao Li
2022-09-21 16:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] perf/core: Expose perf_event_{en,dis}able_local() Xiaoyao Li
2022-09-22 12:16   ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-21 16:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] perf/x86/intel/pt: Introduce and export pt_get_curr_event() Xiaoyao Li
2022-09-22  5:14   ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-09-22 12:33   ` Liang, Kan
2022-09-22 12:58     ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-22 13:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-22 13:59         ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-22 14:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-22 14:42             ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-26 15:48               ` Liang, Kan
2022-09-26 17:24                 ` Jim Mattson
2022-09-26 18:08                   ` Liang, Kan
2022-09-27 14:27                     ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-27 16:52                       ` Liang, Kan
2022-09-26 15:32       ` Liang, Kan [this message]
2022-09-21 16:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] KVM: VMX: Stop/resume host PT before/after VMX transition when PT_MODE_HOST_GUEST Xiaoyao Li
2022-09-22 12:34   ` Wang, Wei W

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