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From: David Ahern <daahern@cisco.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	acme@ghostprotocols.net, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] perf record: add time-of-day option
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 07:33:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D6FA6B4.7060407@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110303085148.GA16832@elte.hu>



On 03/03/2011 01:51 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * David Ahern <daahern@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
>>> How does all that deal with CLOCK_REALTIME being affected by NTP and
>>> settimeofday? Not really, as far as I can tell. It somehow works, but
>>> that depends on the frequency of your event injection.
>>
>> It is sampled at some periodic rate to get NTP changes. Right now it is
>> hardcoded at once an hour. The frequency option can be added to the
>> --tod parameter.
> 
> As Thomas mentioned, we probably need something more complete than that.

Just responded to Thomas' email with a simpler proposal than munging on
tracepoints and trying to track time-of-day implicitly.

> Still your approach is obviously useful and i'd like to stress that explicitly. Have 

Thanks for stating that.

> you considered another related feature, feeding printk lines as special 'string 
> events' into the perf ringbuffer?
> 
> It would round up your scheme very nicely: that way you'd have a single, global, 
> GTOD-correlated event store/flow for basically every system event you might be 
> interested in. You could switch events (and tracepoints) on/off based on need, 
> controlling the type and rate of information in a very finegrained way.
> 
> If the printk approach works out i'd even suggest that such a facility would need a 
> separate tool within perf: 'perf syslog' or 'perf log'. It would heavily reuse 
> perf-script and other perf internal facilities, obviously - but you would not be 
> tied to any particular sub-tool implementation.
> 
> EDAC type events could feed into this as well, giving the tool a broader 'system 
> health' aspect as well, beyond the 'system performance analysis' aspect.

I can look into it (as time allows) once I get the dumping of software
events done.

David

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-03 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-28  3:52 [PATCH 0/6 v3] perf events: Add realtime clock event, time-of-day strings to script output David Ahern
2011-02-28  3:52 ` [PATCH 1/6] perf events: Introduce realtime clock event David Ahern
2011-02-28  3:52 ` [PATCH 2/6] perf events: plumbing for PERF_SAMPLE_READ and read_format David Ahern
2011-02-28  3:52 ` [PATCH 3/6] perf record: add time-of-day option David Ahern
2011-03-01 14:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-01 14:35     ` David Ahern
2011-03-01 15:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-01 15:41         ` David Ahern
2011-03-01 16:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-01 16:09             ` David Ahern
2011-03-01 16:37               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-01 16:45                 ` David Ahern
2011-03-01 17:07                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-03-01 17:09                     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-03-01 22:28                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-01 22:35                     ` David Ahern
2011-03-02 14:16   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-02 14:28     ` David Ahern
2011-03-02 17:28       ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-03 14:29         ` David Ahern
2011-03-03  8:51       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-03 14:33         ` David Ahern [this message]
2011-02-28  3:52 ` [PATCH 4/6] perf script: dump software events too David Ahern
2011-03-01 14:09   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-03-01 14:18     ` David Ahern
2011-03-01 15:11       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-03-01 16:11         ` David Ahern
2011-03-01 16:24           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-03-01 16:49           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-02-28  3:52 ` [PATCH 5/6] perf script: Prepend lines with time-of-day string David Ahern
2011-02-28  3:52 ` [PATCH 6/6] perf stat: treat realtime-clock as nsec counter David Ahern
2011-02-28  3:55 ` [PATCH 0/6 v3] perf events: Add realtime clock event, time-of-day strings to script output David Ahern

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