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From: Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexey Brodkin <Alexey.Brodkin@synopsys.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	"linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arc: perf: Enable generic "cache-references" and "cache-misses" events
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 12:05:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5f65fa04-8d33-e525-115d-4e6991a7668e@synopsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6074e252-6e18-bb01-4de1-023bd7e82f03@synopsys.com>

On 08/26/2016 10:31 AM, Vineet Gupta wrote:
> On 08/25/2016 04:49 AM, Alexey Brodkin wrote:
>> ...
>>  	[PERF_COUNT_ARC_EDTLB] = "edtlb",	/* D-TLB Miss */
>>  	[PERF_COUNT_ARC_EITLB] = "eitlb",	/* I-TLB Miss */
>> +
>> +	[PERF_COUNT_HW_CACHE_REFERENCES] = "imemrdc",	/* Instr: mem read cached */
>> +	[PERF_COUNT_HW_CACHE_MISSES] = "dclm",		/* D-cache Load Miss */
> I think this is duplicating a mistake we already have. I vaguely remember when
> doing some hackbench profiling last year with range based profiling confined to
> memset routine and saw that L1-dcache-misses was counting zero. This is because it
> only counts LD misses while memset only does ST.
>
> Performance counter stats for '/sbin/hackbench':
>
>      0 L1-dcache-misses
>      0 L1-dcache-load-misses
>      1846082 L1-dcache-store-misses
>
>
> @PeterZ do you concur that is wrong and we ought to setup 2 counters to do this
> correctly ?

Hi Peter / Will,

Can you provide some guidance here. So I looked at what others do -
ARMV7_PERFCTR_L1_DCACHE_REFILL counts both load and store misses, while ARC has 2
separate conditions for load or stores. Is there an existing mechanism to "group"
/ "add" them to give a cumulative PERF_COUNT_HW_CACHE_MISSES - is that what perf
event grouping is ?

Quoting from perf wiki @ https://perf.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Tutorial

"It can be interesting to try and pack events in a way that guarantees that event
A and B are always measured together. Although the perf_events kernel interface
provides support for event grouping, the current perf tool does *not*."

Thx,
-Vineet

       reply	other threads:[~2016-08-31 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1472125647-518-1-git-send-email-abrodkin@synopsys.com>
     [not found] ` <6074e252-6e18-bb01-4de1-023bd7e82f03@synopsys.com>
2016-08-31 19:05   ` Vineet Gupta [this message]
2016-09-01  8:33     ` [PATCH] arc: perf: Enable generic "cache-references" and "cache-misses" events Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-20 20:56       ` perf event grouping for dummies (was Re: [PATCH] arc: perf: Enable generic "cache-references" and "cache-misses" events) Vineet Gupta
2016-09-22  0:43         ` Paul Clarke
2016-09-22  7:56           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-22 17:50             ` Vineet Gupta
2016-09-22 18:23               ` Paul Clarke
2016-09-22 19:42                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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