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From: Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/3] mm/gup: disallow FOLL_LONGTERM GUP-fast writing to file-backed mappings
Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 09:35:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <651bfe55-6e2a-0337-d755-c8d606f5317e@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a6bb0334-9aba-9fd8-6a9a-9d4a931b6da2@linux.ibm.com>

On 5/2/23 9:04 AM, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 02.05.23 um 14:54 schrieb Lorenzo Stoakes:
>> On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 02:46:28PM +0200, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>>> Am 02.05.23 um 01:11 schrieb Lorenzo Stoakes:
>>>> Writing to file-backed dirty-tracked mappings via GUP is inherently broken
>>>> as we cannot rule out folios being cleaned and then a GUP user writing to
>>>> them again and possibly marking them dirty unexpectedly.
>>>>
>>>> This is especially egregious for long-term mappings (as indicated by the
>>>> use of the FOLL_LONGTERM flag), so we disallow this case in GUP-fast as
>>>> we have already done in the slow path.
>>>
>>> Hmm, does this interfer with KVM on s390 and PCI interpretion of interrupt delivery?
>>> It would no longer work with file backed memory, correct?
>>>
>>> See
>>> arch/s390/kvm/pci.c
>>>
>>> kvm_s390_pci_aif_enable
>>> which does have
>>> FOLL_WRITE | FOLL_LONGTERM
>>> to
>>>
>>
>> Does this memory map a dirty-tracked file? It's kind of hard to dig into where
>> the address originates from without going through a ton of code. In worst case
>> if the fast code doesn't find a whitelist it'll fall back to slow path which
>> explicitly checks for dirty-tracked filesystem.
> 
> It does pin from whatever QEMU uses as backing for the guest.
>>
>> We can reintroduce a flag to permit exceptions if this is really broken, are you
>> able to test? I don't have an s390 sat around :)
> 
> Matt (Rosato on cc) probably can. In the end, it would mean having
>   <memoryBacking>
>     <source type="file"/>
>   </memoryBacking>
> 
> In libvirt I guess.

I am running with this series applied using a QEMU guest with memory-backend-file (using the above libvirt snippet) for a few different PCI device types and AEN forwarding (e.g. what is setup in kvm_s390_pci_aif_enable) is still working.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-05-02 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-01 23:11 [PATCH v6 0/3] mm/gup: disallow GUP writing to file-backed mappings by default Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-01 23:11 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] mm/mmap: separate writenotify and dirty tracking logic Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-01 23:11 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] mm/gup: disallow FOLL_LONGTERM GUP-nonfast writing to file-backed mappings Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-02 15:04   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-02 15:17     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-01 23:11 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] mm/gup: disallow FOLL_LONGTERM GUP-fast " Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-01 23:42   ` John Hubbard
2023-05-02 11:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-02 11:23     ` Jan Kara
2023-05-02 11:25     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-02 11:28       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-02 12:08       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-02 12:27         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-02 12:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-02 12:47           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-02 12:52             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-02 12:53               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-02 13:30         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-05-02 11:20   ` Jan Kara
2023-05-02 12:46   ` Christian Borntraeger
2023-05-02 12:54     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-02 13:02       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-02 13:04       ` Christian Borntraeger
2023-05-02 13:10         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-02 13:28           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-02 13:36             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-02 13:39               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-02 13:43                 ` Matthew Rosato
2023-05-02 13:47                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-02 13:50                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-02 13:56                       ` Matthew Rosato
2023-05-02 15:09                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-02 15:19                           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-02 15:20                             ` Matthew Rosato
2023-05-02 13:57                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-02 14:04                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-02 14:15                           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-02 14:54                             ` Matthew Rosato
2023-05-02 15:20                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-02 15:32                                 ` Peter Xu
2023-05-02 15:36                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-02 15:45                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-02 16:06                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-02 16:12                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-02 16:19                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-02 16:32                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-02 17:46                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-02 17:59                                                 ` Matthew Rosato
2023-05-02 18:09                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-02 19:23                                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-02 13:38             ` Matthew Rosato
2023-05-02 13:35         ` Matthew Rosato [this message]
2023-05-02 14:57           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-02 15:19             ` Matthew Rosato

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