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From: "Mi, Dapeng" <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 28/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Load/save GLOBAL_CTRL via entry/exit fields for mediated PMU
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2025 13:02:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83067602-325a-4655-a1b7-e6bd6a31eed4@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aSUK8FuWT4lpMP3F@google.com>


On 11/25/2025 9:48 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 06, 2025, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>> From: Dapeng Mi <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>
>>
>> When running a guest with a mediated PMU, context switch PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL
>> via the dedicated VMCS fields for both host and guest.  For the host,
>> always zero GLOBAL_CTRL on exit as the guest's state will still be loaded
>> in hardware (KVM will context switch the bulk of PMU state outside of the
>> inner run loop).  For the guest, use the dedicated fields to atomically
>> load and save PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL on all entry/exits.
>>
>> Note, VM_EXIT_SAVE_IA32_PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL was introduced by Sapphire
>> Rapids, and is expected to be supported on all CPUs with PMU v4+.  WARN if
>> that expectation is not met.  Alternatively, KVM could manually save
>> PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL via the MSR save list, but the associated complexity and
>> runtime overhead is unjustified given that the feature should always be
>> available on relevant CPUs.
> This is wrong, PMU v4 has been supported since Skylake.

Yes, the v4+ restriction is to meet the requirement of existence of
IA32_PERF_GLOBAL_STATUS_SET MSR which is needed to restore the guest
global_ctrl.


>
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/pmu_intel.c b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/pmu_intel.c
>> index 7ab35ef4a3b1..98f7b45ea391 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/pmu_intel.c
>> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/pmu_intel.c
>> @@ -787,7 +787,23 @@ static bool intel_pmu_is_mediated_pmu_supported(struct x86_pmu_capability *host_
>>  	 * Require v4+ for MSR_CORE_PERF_GLOBAL_STATUS_SET, and full-width
>>  	 * writes so that KVM can precisely load guest counter values.
>>  	 */
>> -	return host_pmu->version >= 4 && host_perf_cap & PERF_CAP_FW_WRITES;
>> +	if (host_pmu->version < 4 || !(host_perf_cap & PERF_CAP_FW_WRITES))
>> +		return false;
>> +
>> +	/*
>> +	 * All CPUs that support a mediated PMU are expected to support loading
>> +	 * and saving PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL via dedicated VMCS fields.
>> +	 */
>> +	if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!cpu_has_load_perf_global_ctrl() ||
>> +			 !cpu_has_save_perf_global_ctrl()))
>> +		return false;
> And so this WARN fires due to cpu_has_save_perf_global_ctrl() being false.  The
> bad changelog is mine, but the code isn't entirely my fault.  I did suggest the
> WARN in v3[1], probably because I forgot when PMU v4 was introduced and no one
> corrected me.
>
> v4 of the series[2] then made cpu_has_save_perf_global_ctrl() a hard requirement,
> based on my miguided feedback.
>
>    * Only support GLOBAL_CTRL save/restore with VMCS exec_ctrl, drop the MSR
>      save/retore list support for GLOBAL_CTRL, thus the support of mediated
>      vPMU is constrained to SapphireRapids and later CPUs on Intel side.
>
> Doubly frustrating is that this was discussed in the original RFC, where Jim
> pointed out[3] that requiring VM_EXIT_SAVE_IA32_PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL would prevent
> enabling the mediated PMU on Skylake+, and I completely forgot that conversation
> by the time v3 of the series rolled around :-(

VM_EXIT_SAVE_IA32_PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL is introduced from SPR and later. I
remember the original requirements includes to support Skylake and Icelake,
but I ever thought there were some offline sync and the requirement changed...

My bad, I should double confirm this at then.


>
> As mentioned in the discussion with Jim, _if_ PMU v4 was introduced with ICX (or
> later), then I'd be in favor of making VM_EXIT_SAVE_IA32_PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL a hard
> requirement.  But losing supporting Skylake+ is a bit much.
>
> There are a few warts with nVMX's use of the auto-store list that need to be
> cleaned up, but on the plus side it's also a good excuse to clean up
> {add,clear}_atomic_switch_msr(), which have accumulated some cruft and quite a
> bit of duplicate code.  And while I still dislike using the auto-store list, the
> code isn't as ugly as it was back in v3 because we _can_ make the "load" VMCS
> controls mandatory without losing support for any CPUs (they predate PMU v4).

Yes, xxx_atomic_switch_msr() helpers need to be cleaned up and optimized. I
suppose we can have an independent patch-set to clean up and support
global_ctrl with auto-store list for Skylake and Icelake.


>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZzyWKTMdNi5YjvEM@google.com
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250324173121.1275209-1-mizhang@google.com
> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/all/CALMp9eQ+-wcj8QMmFR07zvxFF22-bWwQgV-PZvD04ruQ=0NBBA@mail.gmail.com

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-25  5:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-06 19:56 [PATCH v5 00/44] KVM: x86: Add support for mediated vPMUs Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 01/44] perf: Skip pmu_ctx based on event_type Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 02/44] perf: Add generic exclude_guest support Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 03/44] perf: Move security_perf_event_free() call to __free_event() Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 04/44] perf: Add APIs to create/release mediated guest vPMUs Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 05/44] perf: Clean up perf ctx time Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 06/44] perf: Add a EVENT_GUEST flag Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 07/44] perf: Add APIs to load/put guest mediated PMU context Sean Christopherson
2025-08-08  7:30   ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 08/44] perf: core/x86: Register a new vector for handling mediated guest PMIs Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 09/44] perf/x86: Switch LVTPC to/from mediated PMI vector on guest load/put context Sean Christopherson
2025-08-15 11:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-15 15:41     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-15 15:55       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-18 14:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-18 15:25           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-18 16:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-18 20:07               ` Liang, Kan
2025-11-19 21:31             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-15 13:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-15 15:51     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 10/44] perf/x86/core: Do not set bit width for unavailable counters Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 11/44] perf/x86/core: Plumb mediated PMU capability from x86_pmu to x86_pmu_cap Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 12/44] perf/x86/intel: Support PERF_PMU_CAP_MEDIATED_VPMU Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 13/44] perf/x86/amd: Support PERF_PMU_CAP_MEDIATED_VPMU for AMD host Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 14/44] KVM: VMX: Setup canonical VMCS config prior to kvm_x86_vendor_init() Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 15/44] KVM: SVM: Check pmu->version, not enable_pmu, when getting PMC MSRs Sean Christopherson
2025-08-13  9:58   ` Sandipan Das
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 16/44] KVM: Add a simplified wrapper for registering perf callbacks Sean Christopherson
2025-08-22 10:32   ` Anup Patel
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 17/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Snapshot host (i.e. perf's) reported PMU capabilities Sean Christopherson
2025-08-13  9:56   ` Sandipan Das
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 18/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Start stubbing in mediated PMU support Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 19/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Implement Intel mediated PMU requirements and constraints Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 20/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Implement AMD mediated PMU requirements Sean Christopherson
2025-08-13  9:49   ` Sandipan Das
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 21/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Register PMI handler for mediated vPMU Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 22/44] KVM: x86: Rename vmx_vmentry/vmexit_ctrl() helpers Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 23/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Move PMU_CAP_{FW_WRITES,LBR_FMT} into msr-index.h header Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 24/44] KVM: x86: Rework KVM_REQ_MSR_FILTER_CHANGED into a generic RECALC_INTERCEPTS Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 25/44] KVM: x86: Use KVM_REQ_RECALC_INTERCEPTS to react to CPUID updates Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 26/44] KVM: VMX: Add helpers to toggle/change a bit in VMCS execution controls Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 27/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Disable RDPMC interception for compatible mediated vPMU Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 28/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Load/save GLOBAL_CTRL via entry/exit fields for mediated PMU Sean Christopherson
2025-11-25  1:48   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-25  5:02     ` Mi, Dapeng [this message]
2025-11-25 17:08       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-26  0:23         ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 29/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Use BIT_ULL() instead of open coded equivalents Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 30/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Move initialization of valid PMCs bitmask to common x86 Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 31/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Restrict GLOBAL_{CTRL,STATUS}, fixed PMCs, and PEBS to PMU v2+ Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 32/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Disable interception of select PMU MSRs for mediated vPMUs Sean Christopherson
2025-09-26  7:12   ` Sandipan Das
2025-10-01 18:14     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-03  5:03       ` Sandipan Das
2025-10-09  2:19       ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-10-15 18:48         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-16  0:04           ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 33/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Bypass perf checks when emulating mediated PMU counter accesses Sean Christopherson
2025-08-13 10:01   ` Sandipan Das
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 34/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Introduce eventsel_hw to prepare for pmu event filtering Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 35/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Reprogram mediated PMU event selectors on event filter updates Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 36/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Always stuff GuestOnly=1,HostOnly=0 for mediated PMCs on AMD Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:56 ` [PATCH v5 37/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Load/put mediated PMU context when entering/exiting guest Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:57 ` [PATCH v5 38/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Disallow emulation in the fastpath if mediated PMCs are active Sean Christopherson
2025-08-13  9:53   ` Sandipan Das
2025-08-06 19:57 ` [PATCH v5 39/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Handle emulated instruction for mediated vPMU Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:57 ` [PATCH v5 40/44] KVM: nVMX: Add macros to simplify nested MSR interception setting Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:57 ` [PATCH v5 41/44] KVM: nVMX: Disable PMU MSR interception as appropriate while running L2 Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:57 ` [PATCH v5 42/44] KVM: nSVM: " Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:57 ` [PATCH v5 43/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Expose enable_mediated_pmu parameter to user space Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 19:57 ` [PATCH v5 44/44] KVM: x86/pmu: Elide WRMSRs when loading guest PMCs if values already match Sean Christopherson
2025-11-14  6:19   ` Manali Shukla
2025-08-08  8:28 ` [PATCH v5 00/44] KVM: x86: Add support for mediated vPMUs Mi, Dapeng
2025-08-08  8:35   ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-08-13  9:45 ` Sandipan Das
2025-08-22  8:12 ` Hao, Xudong
2025-09-19  0:10 ` Sean Christopherson

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