From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
x86@kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org,
Jordan Rome <jordalgo@meta.com>, Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 03/11] unwind: Introduce SFrame user space unwinding
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2024 10:18:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87frpegboy.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241001143624.08291d00@gandalf.local.home> (Steven Rostedt's message of "Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:36:24 -0400")
* Steven Rostedt:
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 11:20:35 -0700
> Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>> > So we trust user space to have this table sorted?
>> >
>>
>> GNU ld will create this table sorted when linking .sframe sections and
>> will set SFRAME_F_FDE_SORTED in flags in the output .sframe section. In
>> the current patch, I see the __sframe_add_section () includes a check
>> for SFRAME_F_FDE_SORTED for admitting SFrame sections.
>>
>> So proceeding here with the assumption that the SFrame FDE list is
>> sorted should work fine.
>
> No not at all! We *cannot trust* user space. This could lead to a security
> hole if we assume it's sorted. The kernel must not trust anything it
> receives from user space. Because an attacker will be looking for ways to
> confuse the kernel to exploit it.
I don't quite understand, sorry.
Doing a binary search on an unordered table fails to find some entries
that could be discovered by a linear scan. But an attacker could just
as well use an incomplete table from the start. So assuming an ordered
table seems rather unlikely to introduce additional problems. (Given
the lack of a formal threat model, it's impossible to make more precise
claims in either direction.)
Thanks,
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-02 8:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-13 23:02 [PATCH v2 00/11] unwind, perf: sframe user space unwinding, deferred perf callchains Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-13 23:02 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] unwind: Introduce generic user space unwinding interface Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-13 23:02 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] unwind/x86: Add HAVE_USER_UNWIND Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-16 11:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-20 8:09 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-13 23:02 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] unwind: Introduce SFrame user space unwinding Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-14 11:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-01 18:20 ` Indu Bhagat
2024-10-01 18:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-02 8:18 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2024-10-02 14:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-23 13:59 ` Jens Remus
2024-10-27 17:49 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-13 23:02 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] unwind/x86/64: Add HAVE_USER_UNWIND_SFRAME Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-13 23:02 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] perf/x86: Use user_unwind interface Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-16 6:48 ` kernel test robot
2024-09-17 22:01 ` Namhyung Kim
2024-09-13 23:02 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] perf: Remove get_perf_callchain() 'init_nr' argument Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-13 23:02 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] perf: Remove get_perf_callchain() 'crosstask' argument Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-13 23:02 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] perf: Simplify get_perf_callchain() user logic Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-13 23:02 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] perf: Introduce deferred user callchains Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-17 22:07 ` Namhyung Kim
2024-09-13 23:02 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] perf/x86: Add HAVE_PERF_CALLCHAIN_DEFERRED Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-13 23:02 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] perf/x86: Enable SFrame unwinding for deferred user callchains Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-14 12:12 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] unwind, perf: sframe user space unwinding, deferred perf callchains Steven Rostedt
2024-09-15 11:11 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-15 11:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-09-16 14:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-16 15:39 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-16 18:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-16 0:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-16 0:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-17 0:37 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-16 22:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-09-17 21:58 ` Namhyung Kim
2024-09-18 5:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 2:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-03 2:37 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-03 14:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-09-16 16:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-09-14 19:37 ` Namhyung Kim
2024-10-23 13:22 ` Jens Remus
2024-10-24 2:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-27 17:24 ` Josh Poimboeuf
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