From: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] tools/include: Sync uapi/drm/i915_drm.h with the kernel sources
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2024 13:14:09 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pluy972m.fsf@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZhTwPLliHXKPAJUQ@gmail.com>
On Tue, 09 Apr 2024, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> * Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 08 Apr 2024, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org> wrote:
>> > To pick up changes from:
>> >
>> > b112364867499 ("drm/i915: Add GuC submission interface version query")
>> > 5cf0fbf763741 ("drm/i915: Add some boring kerneldoc")
>> >
>> > This should be used to beautify DRM syscall arguments and it addresses
>> > these tools/perf build warnings:
>> >
>> > Warning: Kernel ABI header differences:
>> > diff -u tools/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>
>> All these years and I never realized there are header copies
>> there. But... why copies?
>
> It's better than all the alternatives we tried so far:
>
> - Symbolic links and direct #includes: this was the original approach but
> was pushed back on from the kernel side, when tooling modified the
> headers and broke them accidentally for kernel builds.
>
> - Duplicate self-defined ABI headers like glibc: double the maintenance
> burden, double the chance for mistakes, plus there's no tech-driven
> notification mechanism to look at new kernel side changes.
>
> What we are doing now is a third option:
>
> - A software-enforced copy-on-write mechanism of kernel headers to
> tooling, driven by non-fatal warnings on the tooling side build when
> kernel headers get modified:
>
> Warning: Kernel ABI header differences:
> diff -u tools/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> diff -u tools/include/uapi/linux/fs.h include/uapi/linux/fs.h
> diff -u tools/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h include/uapi/linux/kvm.h
> ...
>
> The tooling policy is to always pick up the kernel side headers as-is,
> and integate them into the tooling build. The warnings above serve as a
> notification to tooling maintainers that there's changes on the kernel
> side.
>
> We've been using this for many years now, and it might seem hacky, but
> works surprisingly well.
>
> Does this make sense to you?
Yes, although there are probably pieces of the puzzle I'm missing.
Thanks for the explanation! (That might work almost as-is copied to
tools/include/uapi/README. ;)
It's also kind of funny to find this kind of back alleys of the kernel
repo I've never wandered to before.
BR,
Jani.
--
Jani Nikula, Intel
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-08 18:55 [PATCHSET 0/9] Sync tools headers with the kernel source Namhyung Kim
2024-04-08 18:55 ` [PATCH 1/9] tools/include: Sync uapi/drm/i915_drm.h with the kernel sources Namhyung Kim
2024-04-09 7:26 ` Jani Nikula
2024-04-09 7:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2024-04-09 10:14 ` Jani Nikula [this message]
2024-04-09 15:58 ` Namhyung Kim
2024-04-09 17:00 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2024-04-08 18:55 ` [PATCH 2/9] tools/include: Sync uapi/linux/fs.h " Namhyung Kim
2024-04-09 10:04 ` Jan Kara
2024-04-09 10:10 ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-08 18:55 ` [PATCH 3/9] tools/include: Sync uapi/linux/kvm.h and asm/kvm.h " Namhyung Kim
2024-04-08 18:55 ` [PATCH 4/9] tools/include: Sync uapi/sound/asound.h " Namhyung Kim
2024-04-08 18:55 ` [PATCH 5/9] tools/include: Sync x86 CPU feature headers " Namhyung Kim
2024-04-08 18:55 ` [PATCH 6/9] tools/include: Sync x86 asm/irq_vectors.h " Namhyung Kim
2024-04-08 18:55 ` [PATCH 7/9] tools/include: Sync x86 asm/msr-index.h " Namhyung Kim
2024-04-08 18:55 ` [PATCH 8/9] tools/include: Sync asm-generic/bitops/fls.h " Namhyung Kim
2024-04-08 18:55 ` [PATCH 9/9] tools/include: Sync arm64 asm/cputype.h " Namhyung Kim
2024-04-08 19:13 ` [PATCHSET 0/9] Sync tools headers with the kernel source Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2024-04-09 7:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2024-04-09 13:58 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2024-04-09 15:51 ` Namhyung Kim
2024-04-09 7:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-09 13:47 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2024-04-09 15:54 ` Namhyung Kim
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