From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 0/3] mm/gup: disallow GUP writing to file-backed mappings by default
Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 14:53:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <976fcec0-d132-3a27-bbd2-01b21571bca2@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80e3b8ee-c16d-062f-f483-06e21282e59c@linux.ibm.com>
On 03.05.23 13:25, Matthew Rosato wrote:
> On 5/3/23 3:08 AM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 03.05.23 02:31, Matthew Rosato wrote:
>>> On 5/2/23 6:51 PM, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>>>> Writing to file-backed mappings which require folio dirty tracking using
>>>> GUP is a fundamentally broken operation, as kernel write access to GUP
>>>> mappings do not adhere to the semantics expected by a file system.
>>>>
>>>> A GUP caller uses the direct mapping to access the folio, which does not
>>>> cause write notify to trigger, nor does it enforce that the caller marks
>>>> the folio dirty.
>>>>
>>>> The problem arises when, after an initial write to the folio, writeback
>>>> results in the folio being cleaned and then the caller, via the GUP
>>>> interface, writes to the folio again.
>>>>
>>>> As a result of the use of this secondary, direct, mapping to the folio no
>>>> write notify will occur, and if the caller does mark the folio dirty, this
>>>> will be done so unexpectedly.
>>>>
>>>> For example, consider the following scenario:-
>>>>
>>>> 1. A folio is written to via GUP which write-faults the memory, notifying
>>>> the file system and dirtying the folio.
>>>> 2. Later, writeback is triggered, resulting in the folio being cleaned and
>>>> the PTE being marked read-only.
>>>> 3. The GUP caller writes to the folio, as it is mapped read/write via the
>>>> direct mapping.
>>>> 4. The GUP caller, now done with the page, unpins it and sets it dirty
>>>> (though it does not have to).
>>>>
>>>> This change updates both the PUP FOLL_LONGTERM slow and fast APIs. As
>>>> pin_user_pages_fast_only() does not exist, we can rely on a slightly
>>>> imperfect whitelisting in the PUP-fast case and fall back to the slow case
>>>> should this fail.
>>>>
>>>> v8:
>>>> - Fixed typo writeable -> writable.
>>>> - Fixed bug in writable_file_mapping_allowed() - must check combination of
>>>> FOLL_PIN AND FOLL_LONGTERM not either/or.
>>>> - Updated vma_needs_dirty_tracking() to include write/shared to account for
>>>> MAP_PRIVATE mappings.
>>>> - Move to open-coding the checks in folio_pin_allowed() so we can
>>>> READ_ONCE() the mapping and avoid unexpected compiler loads. Rename to
>>>> account for fact we now check flags here.
>>>> - Disallow mapping == NULL or mapping & PAGE_MAPPING_FLAGS other than
>>>> anon. Defer to slow path.
>>>> - Perform GUP-fast check _after_ the lowest page table level is confirmed to
>>>> be stable.
>>>> - Updated comments and commit message for final patch as per Jason's
>>>> suggestions.
>>>
>>> Tested again on s390 using QEMU with a memory backend file (on ext4) and vfio-pci -- This time both vfio_pin_pages_remote (which will call pin_user_pages_remote(flags | FOLL_LONGTERM)) and the pin_user_pages_fast(FOLL_WRITE | FOLL_LONGTERM) in kvm_s390_pci_aif_enable are being allowed (e.g. returning positive pin count)
>>
>> At least it's consistent now ;) And it might be working as expected ...
>>
>> In v7:
>> * pin_user_pages_fast() succeeded
>> * vfio_pin_pages_remote() failed
>>
>> But also in v7:
>> * GUP-fast allows pinning (anonymous) pages in MAP_PRIVATE file
>> mappings
>> * Ordinary GUP allows pinning pages in MAP_PRIVATE file mappings
>>
>> In v8:
>> * pin_user_pages_fast() succeeds
>> * vfio_pin_pages_remote() succeeds
>>
>> But also in v8:
>> * GUP-fast allows pinning (anonymous) pages in MAP_PRIVATE file
>> mappings
>> * Ordinary GUP allows pinning pages in MAP_PRIVATE file mappings
>>
>>
>> I have to speculate, but ... could it be that you are using a private mapping?
>>
>> In QEMU, unfortunately, the default for memory-backend-file is "share=off" (private) ... for memory-backend-memfd it is "share=on" (shared). The default is stupid ...
>>
>> If you invoke QEMU manually, can you specify "share=on" for the memory-backend-file? I thought libvirt would always default to "share=on" for file mappings (everything else doesn't make much sense) ... but you might have to specify
>> <access mode="shared"/>
>> in addition to
>> <source type="file"/>
>>
>
> Ah, there we go. Yes, I was using the default of share=off. When I instead specify share=on, now the pins will fail in both cases.
>
Out of curiosity, how does that manifest?
I assume the VM is successfully created and as Linux tries initializing
and using the device, we get a bunch of errors inside the VM, correct?
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-03 12:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-02 22:51 [PATCH v8 0/3] mm/gup: disallow GUP writing to file-backed mappings by default Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-02 22:51 ` [PATCH v8 1/3] mm/mmap: separate writenotify and dirty tracking logic Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-03 14:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-04 17:17 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-02 22:51 ` [PATCH v8 2/3] mm/gup: disallow FOLL_LONGTERM GUP-nonfast writing to file-backed mappings Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-03 14:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-02 22:51 ` [PATCH v8 3/3] mm/gup: disallow FOLL_LONGTERM GUP-fast " Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-03 2:18 ` Andrew Morton
2023-05-04 15:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-03 11:01 ` Jan Kara
2023-05-04 15:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-04 15:48 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-05 14:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-05 22:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-03 0:31 ` [PATCH v8 0/3] mm/gup: disallow GUP writing to file-backed mappings by default Matthew Rosato
2023-05-03 7:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-03 11:25 ` Matthew Rosato
2023-05-03 12:53 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-05-03 13:24 ` Matthew Rosato
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