From: Tao Chen <chen.dylane@gmail.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
Tao Chen <chen.dylane@linux.dev>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com, acme@kernel.org,
namhyung@kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com,
alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, jolsa@kernel.org,
irogers@google.com, adrian.hunter@intel.com,
kan.liang@linux.intel.com, song@kernel.org, ast@kernel.org,
daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org, martin.lau@linux.dev,
eddyz87@gmail.com, yonghong.song@linux.dev,
john.fastabend@gmail.com, kpsingh@kernel.org, sdf@fomichev.me,
haoluo@google.com, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v8 2/3] perf: Refactor get_perf_callchain
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2026 17:20:28 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9fd7e5ce-a4ac-4354-93f2-8797bb1fb153@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzZun3amXMpYdBPEy=qZwrY3ZjrKf_qc6tG-b4NJ=-AC7w@mail.gmail.com>
在 2026/2/6 01:34, Andrii Nakryiko 写道:
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2026 at 10:16 PM Tao Chen <chen.dylane@linux.dev> wrote:
>>
>> 在 2026/2/4 09:08, Andrii Nakryiko 写道:
>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2026 at 11:45 PM Tao Chen <chen.dylane@linux.dev> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From BPF stack map, we want to ensure that the callchain buffer
>>>> will not be overwritten by other preemptive tasks and we also aim
>>>> to reduce the preempt disable interval, Based on the suggestions from Peter
>>>> and Andrrii, export new API __get_perf_callchain and the usage scenarios
>>>> are as follows from BPF side:
>>>>
>>>> preempt_disable()
>>>> entry = get_callchain_entry()
>>>> preempt_enable()
>>>> __get_perf_callchain(entry)
>>>> put_callchain_entry(entry)
>>>>
>>>> Suggested-by: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Tao Chen <chen.dylane@linux.dev>
>>>> ---
>>>> include/linux/perf_event.h | 5 +++++
>>>> kernel/events/callchain.c | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++------------
>>>> 2 files changed, 27 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Looking at the whole __bpf_get_stack() logic again, why didn't we just
>>> do something like this:
>>>
>>> diff --git a/kernel/bpf/stackmap.c b/kernel/bpf/stackmap.c
>>> index da3d328f5c15..80364561611c 100644
>>> --- a/kernel/bpf/stackmap.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/bpf/stackmap.c
>>> @@ -460,8 +460,8 @@ static long __bpf_get_stack(struct pt_regs *regs,
>>> struct task_struct *task,
>>>
>>> max_depth = stack_map_calculate_max_depth(size, elem_size, flags);
>>>
>>> - if (may_fault)
>>> - rcu_read_lock(); /* need RCU for perf's callchain below */
>>> + if (!trace_in)
>>> + preempt_disable();
>>>
>>> if (trace_in) {
>>> trace = trace_in;
>>> @@ -474,8 +474,8 @@ static long __bpf_get_stack(struct pt_regs *regs,
>>> struct task_struct *task,
>>> }
>>>
>>> if (unlikely(!trace) || trace->nr < skip) {
>>> - if (may_fault)
>>> - rcu_read_unlock();
>>> + if (!trace_in)
>>> + preempt_enable();
>>> goto err_fault;
>>> }
>>>
>>> @@ -494,8 +494,8 @@ static long __bpf_get_stack(struct pt_regs *regs,
>>> struct task_struct *task,
>>> }
>>>
>>> /* trace/ips should not be dereferenced after this point */
>>> - if (may_fault)
>>> - rcu_read_unlock();
>>> + if (!trace_in)
>>> + preempt_enable();
>>>
>>> if (user_build_id)
>>> stack_map_get_build_id_offset(buf, trace_nr, user, may_fault);
>>>
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Build ID parsing is happening after we copied data from perf's
>>> callchain_entry into user-provided memory, so raw callchain retrieval
>>> can be done with preemption disabled, as it's supposed to be brief.
>>> Build ID parsing part which indeed might fault and be much slower will
>>> be done well after that (we even have a comment there saying that
>>> trace/ips should not be touched).
>>>
Hi Andrii,
Building upon your work, I have also added preempt_disable() to
bpf_get_stackid, and try to reduce the length of preempt section.
Please review, thanks.
https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20260206090653.1336687-1-chen.dylane@linux.dev
>>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> Yes it looks good for bpf_get_stack, and I also proposed a similar
>> change previously. But Alexei suggested that we should reduce the
>> preemption-disabled section protected in bpf_get_stackid if we do like
>> bpf_get_stack. Maybe we can change it first for bpf_get_stack?
>>
>> https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20250922075333.1452803-1-chen.dylane@linux.dev/
>
> This is broken because we are still using trace after you re-enabled
> preemption. We need to keep preemption disabled until we copy captured
> stack trace data from ips into our own memory.
>
>>
>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards
>> Tao Chen
>
--
Best Regards
Tao Chen
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-06 9:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-26 7:43 [PATCH bpf-next v8 0/3] Pass external callchain entry to get_perf_callchain Tao Chen
2026-01-26 7:43 ` [PATCH bpf-next v8 1/3] perf: Add rctx in perf_callchain_entry Tao Chen
2026-01-26 8:03 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-01-26 8:51 ` Tao Chen
2026-01-27 21:01 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-28 2:41 ` Tao Chen
2026-01-28 8:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-28 16:52 ` Tao Chen
2026-01-28 18:59 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-29 3:03 ` Tao Chen
2026-01-26 7:43 ` [PATCH bpf-next v8 2/3] perf: Refactor get_perf_callchain Tao Chen
2026-01-27 21:07 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-28 2:42 ` Tao Chen
2026-01-28 9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-28 16:49 ` Tao Chen
2026-01-28 19:12 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-30 11:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-30 20:04 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-02 19:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-04 0:24 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-04 1:08 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-05 6:16 ` Tao Chen
2026-02-05 17:34 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-06 9:20 ` Tao Chen [this message]
2026-01-26 7:43 ` [PATCH bpf-next v8 3/3] bpf: Hold ther perf callchain entry until used completely Tao Chen
2026-01-27 21:35 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-28 4:21 ` Tao Chen
2026-01-28 19:13 ` Andrii Nakryiko
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