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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: "Steinar H. Gunderson" <sesse@google.com>
Cc: acme@kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, irogers@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] perf report: Support LLVM for addr2line()
Date: Wed, 22 May 2024 10:27:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM9d7cgBZVfur8S3QC2woUA2C6O3Dme0YHP8PbFcwc_o0k-dWg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240520083048.322863-1-sesse@google.com>

Hello,

Thanks a lot for the patches!

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:31 AM Steinar H. Gunderson <sesse@google.com> wrote:
>
> In addition to the existing support for libbfd and calling out to
> an external addr2line command, add support for using libllvm directly.
> This is both faster than libbfd, and can be enabled in distro builds
> (the LLVM license has an explicit provision for GPLv2 compatibility).
> Thus, it is set as the primary choice if available.
>
> As an example, running perf report on a medium-size profile with
> DWARF-based backtraces took 58 seconds with LLVM, 78 seconds with
> libbfd, 153 seconds with external llvm-addr2line, and I got tired
> and aborted the test after waiting for 55 minutes with external
> bfd addr2line (which is the default for perf as compiled by distributions
> today). Evidently, for this case, the bfd addr2line process needs
> 18 seconds (on a 5.2 GHz Zen 3) to load the .debug ELF in question,
> hits the 1-second timeout and gets killed during initialization,
> getting restarted anew every time. Having an in-process addr2line
> makes this much more robust.
>
> As future extensions, libllvm can be used in many other places where
> we currently use libbfd or other libraries:
>
>  - Symbol enumeration (in particular, for PE binaries).
>  - Demangling (including non-Itanium demangling, e.g. Microsoft
>    or Rust).
>  - Disassembling (perf annotate).

I think it should support other DWARF use cases like
unwinding and type info?

>
> However, these are much less pressing; most people don't profile
> PE binaries, and perf has non-bfd paths for ELF. The same with
> demangling; the default _cxa_demangle path works fine for most
> users. Disassembling is coming in a later patch in the series;
> however do note that while bfd objdump can be slow on large binaries,
> it is possible to use --objdump=llvm-objdump to get the speed benefits.

I remember bfd objdump is sometimes faster than llvm-objdump
especially when no line numbers are requested IIRC.


> (It appears LLVM-based demangling is very simple, should we want
> that.)
>
> Tested with LLVM 14, 15, 16, 18 and 19. For some reason, LLVM 12 was not
> correctly detected using feature_check, and thus was not tested.

Anyway, nice work.  Maybe we can implement other use cases
using LLVM and reduce the dependencies.

Thanks,
Namhyung

>
> Signed-off-by: Steinar H. Gunderson <sesse@google.com>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-05-22 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-20  8:30 [PATCH v4 1/3] perf report: Support LLVM for addr2line() Steinar H. Gunderson
2024-05-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] perf annotate: split out read_symbol() Steinar H. Gunderson
2024-05-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] perf annotate: LLVM-based disassembler Steinar H. Gunderson
2024-05-22 17:27 ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2024-05-22 19:50   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] perf report: Support LLVM for addr2line() Steinar H. Gunderson
2024-05-22 20:46     ` Namhyung Kim
2024-05-23  9:32       ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2024-05-23 13:38 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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