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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>,
	Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] perf build: Use libtraceevent from the system
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 15:29:50 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y4pEHlmaT1i3j23J@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM9d7chsymFFq1di15w+s7jtDenV=kFnk=EDrFO_rDWcSQSa6g@mail.gmail.com>

Em Fri, Dec 02, 2022 at 10:08:04AM -0800, Namhyung Kim escreveu:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:13 PM Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 11:05 AM Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 10:30 PM Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Remove the LIBTRACEEVENT_DYNAMIC and LIBTRACEFS_DYNAMIC. If
> > > > libtraceevent isn't installed or NO_LIBTRACEEVENT=1 is passed to the
> > > > build, don't compile in libtraceevent and libtracefs support. This
> > > > also disables CONFIG_TRACE that controls "perf
> > > > trace". CONFIG_TRACEEVENT is used to control enablement in
> > > > Build/Makefiles, HAVE_LIBTRACEEVENT is used in C code. Without
> > > > HAVE_LIBTRACEEVENT tracepoints are disabled and as such the commands
> > > > kmem, kwork, lock, sched and timechart are removed. The majority of
> > > > commands continue to work including "perf test".
> > >
> > > Maybe we can have a different approach.  I guess the trace data
> > > access is isolated then we can make dummy interfaces when there's
> > > no libtraceevent.  This way we don't need to touch every command
> > > and let it fail when it's asked.
> >
> > Sounds like a worthwhile refactor that can land on top of this change.
> >
> > > The motivation is that we should be able to run the sub-commands
> > > as much as possible.  In fact, we could run 'record' part only on the
> > > target machine and pass the data to the host for analysis with a
> > > full-fledged perf.  Also some commands like 'perf lock contention'
> > > can run with or without libtraceevent (using BPF only).
> >
> > The issue here is that perf lock contention will use evsel__new_tp and
> > internally that uses libtraceevent. As such it is removed without
> > HAVE_LIBTRACEEVENT. Without the evsel there's not much perf lock
> > contention can do, so rather than litter the code with
> > HAVE_LIBTRACEEVENT and for it to be broken, I made the choice just to
> > remove it from the no libtraceevent build for now.
> 
> I don't think it needs evsel__new_tp() when BPF is used.
> The BPF program is attached to the raw tracepoint without
> perf_event and the result is written to the BPF map.
> 
> >
> > I think it is worth pursuing these patches in the shape they are in so
> > that we can land the removal of tools/lib/traceevent and ensure the
> > migration away from an out-of-date version of that library.
> 
> Yeah, I agree that we should remove the stale libtraceevent but
> I'd like to do it with minimal changes in the perf code base.
> Let me take a look at this.

Ok, was going to take a look at this patchkit, will wait for you now.

- Arnaldo

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-02 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-30  6:29 [PATCH v2 0/4] perf use system libtraceevent Ian Rogers
2022-11-30  6:29 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] perf util: Make header guard consistent with tool Ian Rogers
2022-11-30 18:47   ` Namhyung Kim
2022-11-30  6:29 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] perf util: Add host_is_bigendian to util.h Ian Rogers
2022-11-30 18:52   ` Namhyung Kim
2022-12-05 13:16     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2022-11-30  6:29 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] perf build: Use libtraceevent from the system Ian Rogers
2022-11-30 19:05   ` Namhyung Kim
2022-11-30 20:13     ` Ian Rogers
2022-12-02 18:08       ` Namhyung Kim
2022-12-02 18:29         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2022-12-02 19:45           ` Ian Rogers
2022-12-02 23:36             ` Namhyung Kim
2022-12-05 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] perf use system libtraceevent Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
     [not found] ` <20221130062935.2219247-5-irogers@google.com>
     [not found]   ` <Y5eGj4CuQKjr2I6h@kernel.org>
2022-12-12 20:10     ` [PATCH v2 4/4] tools lib traceevent: Remove libtraceevent Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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