From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: "Zhang, Rui" <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
"ak@linux.intel.com" <ak@linux.intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] perf/x86/rapl: Add support for Intel Meteor Lake
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 11:56:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y7f+UqN5qqfJUeoy@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y7f6RhF8FuK9R399@zn.tnic>
* Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 06, 2023 at 06:05:41AM +0000, Zhang, Rui wrote:
> > But I still have a question.
> > Take RAPL feature for example, the feature is not architectural,
> > although 80% of the platforms may follow the same behavior, but there
> > are still cases that behave differently. And so far, there are 8
> > different behaviors based on different models.
> >
> > In this case, can we have several different flags for the RAPL feature
> > and make the RAPL driver probe on different RAPL flags? Or else, a
> > model list is still needed.
>
> Well, you asked about detecting CPUs supporting RAPL.
>
> Now you're asking about different RAPL "subfunctionality" or whatever.
>
> You could do the synthetic flag for feature detection because apparently
> giving it a CPUID flag is soo expensive (/sarcastic eyeroll) and then you
> can pick apart subfeatures in the RAPL code and do flags there, away from
> the x86 arch code because no one should see that.
It's a trade-off in any case: there's a point where quirk flags or even
feature flags become harder to read and harder to maintain than cleanly
separated per model driver functions.
Especially if internally at Intel RAPL functionality is not yet treated as
an 'architected' feature, and new aspects are added in a less disciplined
fashion ...
Sometimes the addition of an 'architected' CPU feature iterates the
feature-set non-trivially - as people consider it a last-minute chance to
get in their favorite features without having to deal with backwards
compatibility ...
So I'm somewhat pessimistically leaning towards the current status quo of
per model enumeration. Would be glad to be proven wrong too. :-)
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-06 10:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-04 14:58 [PATCH 1/2] perf/x86/rapl: Add support for Intel Meteor Lake Zhang Rui
2023-01-04 14:58 ` [PATCH 2/2] perf/x86/rapl: Add support for Intel Emerald Rapids Zhang Rui
2023-01-04 16:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf/x86/rapl: Add support for Intel Meteor Lake Dave Hansen
2023-01-05 6:54 ` Zhang, Rui
2023-01-05 9:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-01-06 6:05 ` Zhang, Rui
2023-01-06 10:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-01-06 10:39 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-01-06 10:56 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2023-01-06 11:11 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-01-06 11:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-01-06 14:45 ` Zhang, Rui
2023-01-06 14:38 ` Zhang, Rui
2023-01-06 14:49 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-01-06 14:50 ` Dave Hansen
2023-01-07 14:07 ` Zhang, Rui
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