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From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
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	Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
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	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Chaitanya S Prakash <chaitanyas.prakash@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	llvm@lists.linux.dev, Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/17] Support dynamic opening of capstone/llvm remove BUILD_NONDISTRO
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 10:19:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z5KILXC9-dN4Vo1o@tassilo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fW6ZWf6jF3Xnike81S9s_5tZ9w4DS8=8Ff1Ve87O32_Sg@mail.gmail.com>

> In certain scenarios, like data centers, it can be useful to
> statically link all your dependencies to avoid dll hell.

Yes but it won't be loaded into memory if not used. Executable
loading is all lazy. Maybe look a page fault trace for loading
perf if you don't believe me.

So you're trying to optimize disk space here?

I didn't see that in the cover letter.

It doesn't seem like a very good reason for such an intrusive patch kit.

If it's a serious concern maybe investigate an executable compressor?

> The X86
> disassembler alone in libllvm is of a size comparable to the perf tool

I agree that LLVM is a serious bloat and DLL hell concern, but I don't think 
dlopen is the answer here.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-23 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-22  6:23 [PATCH v2 00/17] Support dynamic opening of capstone/llvm remove BUILD_NONDISTRO Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] perf build: Remove libtracefs configuration Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] perf map: Constify objdump offset/address conversion APIs Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] perf capstone: Move capstone functionality into its own file Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] perf llvm: Move llvm " Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] perf capstone: Remove open_capstone_handle Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] perf capstone: Support for dlopen-ing libcapstone.so Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] perf llvm: Support for dlopen-ing libLLVM.so Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] perf llvm: Mangle libperf-llvm.so function names Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] perf dso: Move read_symbol from llvm/capstone to dso Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] perf dso: Support BPF programs in dso__read_symbol Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] perf llvm: Disassemble cleanup Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] perf dso: Clean up read_symbol error handling Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] perf build: Remove libbfd support Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] perf build: Remove libiberty support Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] perf build: Remove unused defines Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] perf disasm: Remove disasm_bpf Ian Rogers
2025-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] perf disasm: Make ins__scnprintf and ins__is_nop static Ian Rogers
2025-01-22 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] Support dynamic opening of capstone/llvm remove BUILD_NONDISTRO Andi Kleen
2025-01-22 16:11   ` Ian Rogers
2025-01-23 18:19     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2025-01-23 21:24       ` Ian Rogers
2025-01-23 21:59 ` Namhyung Kim
2025-01-23 23:36   ` Ian Rogers
2025-02-10 18:06     ` Ian Rogers
2025-03-12 21:04       ` Ian Rogers
2025-03-13 22:24         ` Namhyung Kim
2025-03-14  5:54           ` Ian Rogers
2025-03-14 17:06           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-03-14 20:34             ` Ian Rogers

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