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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>
Cc: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Song Liu <song@kernel.org>, Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
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	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Changbin Du <changbin.du@huawei.com>, Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>,
	James Clark <james.clark@arm.com>,
	Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
	Roman Lozko <lozko.roma@gmail.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Thomas Richter <tmricht@linux.ibm.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: BPF skels in perf .Re: [GIT PULL] perf tools changes for v6.4
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 16:15:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZFQ8fB3yfIFimwhD@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZFQ5sjjtfEYzvHNP@krava>

Hi Jiri,

On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 01:03:14AM +0200, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 03:03:42PM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 2:48 PM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Em Thu, May 04, 2023 at 04:07:29PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo escreveu:
> > > > Em Thu, May 04, 2023 at 11:50:07AM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko escreveu:
> > > > > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:52 AM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > > Andrii, can you add some more information about the usage of vmlinux.h
> > > > > > instead of using kernel headers?
> > > >
> > > > > I'll just say that vmlinux.h is not a hard requirement to build BPF
> > > > > programs, it's more a convenience allowing easy access to definitions
> > > > > of both UAPI and kernel-internal structures for tracing needs and
> > > > > marking them relocatable using BPF CO-RE machinery. Lots of real-world
> > > > > applications just check-in pregenerated vmlinux.h to avoid build-time
> > > > > dependency on up-to-date host kernel and such.
> > > >
> > > > > If vmlinux.h generation and usage is causing issues, though, given
> > > > > that perf's BPF programs don't seem to be using many different kernel
> > > > > types, it might be a better option to just use UAPI headers for public
> > > > > kernel type definitions, and just define CO-RE-relocatable minimal
> > > > > definitions locally in perf's BPF code for the other types necessary.
> > > > > E.g., if perf needs only pid and tgid from task_struct, this would
> > > > > suffice:
> > > >
> > > > > struct task_struct {
> > > > >     int pid;
> > > > >     int tgid;
> > > > > } __attribute__((preserve_access_index));
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, that seems like a way better approach, no vmlinux involved, libbpf
> > > > CO-RE notices that task_struct changed from this two integers version
> > > > (of course) and does the relocation to where it is in the running kernel
> > > > by using /sys/kernel/btf/vmlinux.
> > >
> > > Doing it for one of the skels, build tested, runtime untested, but not
> > > using any vmlinux, BTF to help, not that bad, more verbose, but at least
> > > we state what are the fields we actually use, have those attribute
> > > documenting that those offsets will be recorded for future use, etc.
> > >
> > > Namhyung, can you please check that this works?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > - Arnaldo
> > >
> > > diff --git a/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/bperf_cgroup.bpf.c b/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/bperf_cgroup.bpf.c
> > > index 6a438e0102c5a2cb..f376d162549ebd74 100644
> > > --- a/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/bperf_cgroup.bpf.c
> > > +++ b/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/bperf_cgroup.bpf.c
> > > @@ -1,11 +1,40 @@
> > >  // SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > >  // Copyright (c) 2021 Facebook
> > >  // Copyright (c) 2021 Google
> > > -#include "vmlinux.h"
> > > +#include <linux/types.h>
> > > +#include <linux/bpf.h>
> > 
> > Compared to vmlinux.h here be dragons. It is easy to start dragging in
> > all of libc and that may not work due to missing #ifdefs, etc.. Could
> > we check in a vmlinux.h like libbpf-tools does?
> > https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/tree/master/libbpf-tools#vmlinuxh-generation
> > https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/tree/master/libbpf-tools/arm64
> > 
> > This would also remove some of the errors that could be introduced by
> > copy+pasting enums, etc. and also highlight issues with things being
> > renamed as build time rather than runtime failures.
> 
> we already have to deal with that, right? doing checks on fields in
> structs like mm_struct___old
> 
> > Could this be some shared resource for the different linux tools
> > projects using a vmlinux.h? e.g. tools/lib/vmlinuxh with an
> > install_headers target that builds a vmlinux.h.
> 
> I tried to do the minimal header and it's not too big,
> I pushed it in here:
>   https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jolsa/perf.git/log/?h=perf/vmlinux_h
> 
> compile tested so far
 
Cool.  But I think you missed this.

diff --git a/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/perf-defs.h b/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/perf-defs.h
index 1320e1be03b8..4cfa8a9fce39 100644
--- a/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/perf-defs.h
+++ b/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/perf-defs.h
@@ -253,6 +253,7 @@ typedef struct {
 } atomic64_t;
 
 struct rw_semaphore {
+	atomic_long_t owner;
 } __attribute__((preserve_access_index));
 
 typedef atomic64_t atomic_long_t;


Thanks,
Namhyung

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-04 23:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-03 21:18 [GIT PULL] perf tools changes for v6.4 Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04  3:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-04  3:12   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-04  5:51     ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-04 18:36       ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-04 11:09     ` BPF skels in perf .Re: " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 17:25       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-04 17:52         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 18:50           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-04 19:07             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 21:48               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 22:01                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 13:18                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-06  1:13                     ` Yang Jihong
2023-05-05 13:20                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 22:03                 ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-04 23:03                   ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-04 23:15                     ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2023-05-05  9:36                       ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-04 23:19                     ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-05  9:39                       ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-05 11:42                         ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-05 13:33                     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 15:14                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-05-05 16:56                       ` [PATCH RFC/RFT] perf bpf skels: Stop using vmlinux.h generated from BTF, use subset of used structs + CO-RE. was " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 17:04                         ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-05 20:43                           ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-05 20:46                             ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-05 20:48                               ` Namhyung Kim
2023-05-10 18:56                                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 20:49                               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 21:15                               ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-05 21:21                                 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-05 21:52                                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 21:55                                     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-05 21:33                             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-08 21:53                         ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-04 22:46                 ` Namhyung Kim
2023-05-07 19:15 ` pr-tracker-bot

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