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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>, Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>,
	Kate Carcia <kcarcia@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Changbin Du <changbin.du@huawei.com>, Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	James Clark <james.clark@arm.com>,
	Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
	Roman Lozko <lozko.roma@gmail.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Thomas Richter <tmricht@linux.ibm.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: BPF skels in perf .Re: [GIT PULL] perf tools changes for v6.4
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 19:01:51 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZFQrT42SyEbCj4om@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZFQoQjCNtyMIulp+@kernel.org>

Em Thu, May 04, 2023 at 06:48:50PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo escreveu:
> Em Thu, May 04, 2023 at 04:07:29PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo escreveu:
> > Em Thu, May 04, 2023 at 11:50:07AM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko escreveu:
> > > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:52 AM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > Andrii, can you add some more information about the usage of vmlinux.h
> > > > instead of using kernel headers?
> >  
> > > I'll just say that vmlinux.h is not a hard requirement to build BPF
> > > programs, it's more a convenience allowing easy access to definitions
> > > of both UAPI and kernel-internal structures for tracing needs and
> > > marking them relocatable using BPF CO-RE machinery. Lots of real-world
> > > applications just check-in pregenerated vmlinux.h to avoid build-time
> > > dependency on up-to-date host kernel and such.
> >  
> > > If vmlinux.h generation and usage is causing issues, though, given
> > > that perf's BPF programs don't seem to be using many different kernel
> > > types, it might be a better option to just use UAPI headers for public
> > > kernel type definitions, and just define CO-RE-relocatable minimal
> > > definitions locally in perf's BPF code for the other types necessary.
> > > E.g., if perf needs only pid and tgid from task_struct, this would
> > > suffice:
> >  
> > > struct task_struct {
> > >     int pid;
> > >     int tgid;
> > > } __attribute__((preserve_access_index));
> > 
> > Yeah, that seems like a way better approach, no vmlinux involved, libbpf
> > CO-RE notices that task_struct changed from this two integers version
> > (of course) and does the relocation to where it is in the running kernel
> > by using /sys/kernel/btf/vmlinux.
> 
> Doing it for one of the skels, build tested, runtime untested, but not
> using any vmlinux, BTF to help, not that bad, more verbose, but at least
> we state what are the fields we actually use, have those attribute
> documenting that those offsets will be recorded for future use, etc.
> 
> Namhyung, can you please check that this works?

Second case was simpler:

diff --git a/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/bperf_follower.bpf.c b/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/bperf_follower.bpf.c
index f193998530d431d8..1ab06f2ff5ad7548 100644
--- a/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/bperf_follower.bpf.c
+++ b/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/bperf_follower.bpf.c
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 // SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
 // Copyright (c) 2021 Facebook
-#include "vmlinux.h"
+#include <linux/types.h>
+#include <linux/bpf.h>
 #include <bpf/bpf_helpers.h>
 #include <bpf/bpf_tracing.h>
 #include "bperf_u.h"

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-04 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-03 21:18 [GIT PULL] perf tools changes for v6.4 Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04  3:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-04  3:12   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-04  5:51     ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-04 18:36       ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-04 11:09     ` BPF skels in perf .Re: " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 17:25       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-04 17:52         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 18:50           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-04 19:07             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 21:48               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 22:01                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2023-05-05 13:18                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-06  1:13                     ` Yang Jihong
2023-05-05 13:20                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 22:03                 ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-04 23:03                   ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-04 23:15                     ` Namhyung Kim
2023-05-05  9:36                       ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-04 23:19                     ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-05  9:39                       ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-05 11:42                         ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-05 13:33                     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 15:14                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-05-05 16:56                       ` [PATCH RFC/RFT] perf bpf skels: Stop using vmlinux.h generated from BTF, use subset of used structs + CO-RE. was " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 17:04                         ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-05 20:43                           ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-05 20:46                             ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-05 20:48                               ` Namhyung Kim
2023-05-10 18:56                                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 20:49                               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 21:15                               ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-05 21:21                                 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-05 21:52                                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 21:55                                     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-05 21:33                             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-08 21:53                         ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-04 22:46                 ` Namhyung Kim
2023-05-07 19:15 ` pr-tracker-bot

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