From: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>, Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Song Liu <song@kernel.org>, Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
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James Clark <james.clark@arm.com>,
Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
Roman Lozko <lozko.roma@gmail.com>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
Thomas Richter <tmricht@linux.ibm.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: BPF skels in perf .Re: [GIT PULL] perf tools changes for v6.4
Date: Fri, 5 May 2023 11:36:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZFTOB9ZXsKuxXm/6@krava> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZFQ8fB3yfIFimwhD@google.com>
On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 04:15:08PM -0700, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> Hi Jiri,
>
> On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 01:03:14AM +0200, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> > On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 03:03:42PM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 2:48 PM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Em Thu, May 04, 2023 at 04:07:29PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo escreveu:
> > > > > Em Thu, May 04, 2023 at 11:50:07AM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko escreveu:
> > > > > > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:52 AM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrii, can you add some more information about the usage of vmlinux.h
> > > > > > > instead of using kernel headers?
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'll just say that vmlinux.h is not a hard requirement to build BPF
> > > > > > programs, it's more a convenience allowing easy access to definitions
> > > > > > of both UAPI and kernel-internal structures for tracing needs and
> > > > > > marking them relocatable using BPF CO-RE machinery. Lots of real-world
> > > > > > applications just check-in pregenerated vmlinux.h to avoid build-time
> > > > > > dependency on up-to-date host kernel and such.
> > > > >
> > > > > > If vmlinux.h generation and usage is causing issues, though, given
> > > > > > that perf's BPF programs don't seem to be using many different kernel
> > > > > > types, it might be a better option to just use UAPI headers for public
> > > > > > kernel type definitions, and just define CO-RE-relocatable minimal
> > > > > > definitions locally in perf's BPF code for the other types necessary.
> > > > > > E.g., if perf needs only pid and tgid from task_struct, this would
> > > > > > suffice:
> > > > >
> > > > > > struct task_struct {
> > > > > > int pid;
> > > > > > int tgid;
> > > > > > } __attribute__((preserve_access_index));
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, that seems like a way better approach, no vmlinux involved, libbpf
> > > > > CO-RE notices that task_struct changed from this two integers version
> > > > > (of course) and does the relocation to where it is in the running kernel
> > > > > by using /sys/kernel/btf/vmlinux.
> > > >
> > > > Doing it for one of the skels, build tested, runtime untested, but not
> > > > using any vmlinux, BTF to help, not that bad, more verbose, but at least
> > > > we state what are the fields we actually use, have those attribute
> > > > documenting that those offsets will be recorded for future use, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Namhyung, can you please check that this works?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > - Arnaldo
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/bperf_cgroup.bpf.c b/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/bperf_cgroup.bpf.c
> > > > index 6a438e0102c5a2cb..f376d162549ebd74 100644
> > > > --- a/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/bperf_cgroup.bpf.c
> > > > +++ b/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/bperf_cgroup.bpf.c
> > > > @@ -1,11 +1,40 @@
> > > > // SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > // Copyright (c) 2021 Facebook
> > > > // Copyright (c) 2021 Google
> > > > -#include "vmlinux.h"
> > > > +#include <linux/types.h>
> > > > +#include <linux/bpf.h>
> > >
> > > Compared to vmlinux.h here be dragons. It is easy to start dragging in
> > > all of libc and that may not work due to missing #ifdefs, etc.. Could
> > > we check in a vmlinux.h like libbpf-tools does?
> > > https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/tree/master/libbpf-tools#vmlinuxh-generation
> > > https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/tree/master/libbpf-tools/arm64
> > >
> > > This would also remove some of the errors that could be introduced by
> > > copy+pasting enums, etc. and also highlight issues with things being
> > > renamed as build time rather than runtime failures.
> >
> > we already have to deal with that, right? doing checks on fields in
> > structs like mm_struct___old
> >
> > > Could this be some shared resource for the different linux tools
> > > projects using a vmlinux.h? e.g. tools/lib/vmlinuxh with an
> > > install_headers target that builds a vmlinux.h.
> >
> > I tried to do the minimal header and it's not too big,
> > I pushed it in here:
> > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jolsa/perf.git/log/?h=perf/vmlinux_h
> >
> > compile tested so far
>
> Cool. But I think you missed this.
>
> diff --git a/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/perf-defs.h b/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/perf-defs.h
> index 1320e1be03b8..4cfa8a9fce39 100644
> --- a/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/perf-defs.h
> +++ b/tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/perf-defs.h
> @@ -253,6 +253,7 @@ typedef struct {
> } atomic64_t;
>
> struct rw_semaphore {
> + atomic_long_t owner;
> } __attribute__((preserve_access_index));
ah right, I did not see that because my clang took another #ifdef leg
thanks,
jirka
>
> typedef atomic64_t atomic_long_t;
>
>
> Thanks,
> Namhyung
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-05 9:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-03 21:18 [GIT PULL] perf tools changes for v6.4 Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 3:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-04 3:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-04 5:51 ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-04 18:36 ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-04 11:09 ` BPF skels in perf .Re: " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 17:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-04 17:52 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 18:50 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-04 19:07 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 21:48 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 22:01 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 13:18 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-06 1:13 ` Yang Jihong
2023-05-05 13:20 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-04 22:03 ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-04 23:03 ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-04 23:15 ` Namhyung Kim
2023-05-05 9:36 ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2023-05-04 23:19 ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-05 9:39 ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-05 11:42 ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-05 13:33 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 15:14 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-05-05 16:56 ` [PATCH RFC/RFT] perf bpf skels: Stop using vmlinux.h generated from BTF, use subset of used structs + CO-RE. was " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 17:04 ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-05 20:43 ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-05 20:46 ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-05 20:48 ` Namhyung Kim
2023-05-10 18:56 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 20:49 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 21:15 ` Jiri Olsa
2023-05-05 21:21 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-05 21:52 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-05 21:55 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-05 21:33 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-05-08 21:53 ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-04 22:46 ` Namhyung Kim
2023-05-07 19:15 ` pr-tracker-bot
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