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From: Paul Clarke <pc@us.ibm.com>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	linux-perf-users <linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] Allow user probes on versioned symbols
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 22:45:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a0c9ba7b-5f79-a73d-3237-7ec8a0cbb7bd@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170404142604.GB12903@kernel.org>

On 04/04/2017 09:26 AM, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> Em Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 11:18:02PM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu escreveu:
>> On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 11:46:58 -0300
>> Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> wrote:
>> > > > But apart from those problems, I think that one should be able to ask
>> > > > for a versioned symbol, to probe just apps using that specific version,
>> >
>> > > I agree, but wasn't trying to tackle that at the moment.  I can look into it, though.
>> >
>> > > > for instance, we should consider the whole name as two functions, which
>> > > > in fact, they are, no?
>> >
>> > > I'm not sure I understand what you mean here.  Do you mean we should set a probe at every version of a given symbol name?  For example, if there are symbols:
>> > > a@@V2
>> > > a@V1.1
>> > > a@V1
>> >
>> > > ...for a request to set a probe at "a", we'd actually set a probe at all 3?
>> >
>> > I think that we should just probe the default for that symbol and have a
>> > way to probe all of them, perhaps using the wildcard, i.e.:
>> >
>> > [root@jouet linux]# nm /lib64/libpthread-2.24.so  | grep ' pthread_cond_timedwait'
>> > 000000000000dd90 T pthread_cond_timedwait@GLIBC_2.2.5
>> > 000000000000d6e0 T pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2
>> > [root@jouet linux]#
>> >
>> >   # perf probe -x /lib64/libpthread-2.24.so pthread_cond_timedwait
>> >
>> > should be equivalent to:
>> >
>> >   # perf probe -x /lib64/libpthread-2.24.so pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2
>> >
>> > Which matches how these versioned symbols are resolved by the linker,
>> > no?
>> >
>> > I.e. when 'pthread_cond_timedwait' is specified and the symbol table
>> > lookup fails, I think we should re-lookup for
>> > 'pthread_cond_timedwait@@*', i.e. we should have a
>> > symbol__find_default_by_name(), which will take the
>> > "pthread_cond_timedwait" and use a symbol comparison using
>> > strncmp(strlen(key)), matching, should then look at right after the
>> > common part looking for the double @@.
>
>> Hm, this 'fallback'process sounds good idea to me.

I just sent a patch that does what you suggest, above.  To avoid duplicating the code in symbols_find_by_name, I added a parameter to tell it whether to ignore default symbol tags or not.

> This is just trying to keep the semantics used by the original user of
> this syntax, i.e. the linker.
>
>> BTW, how would we support other SYMBOL@VERSION, since we already
>> use '@' for specifying source code?
>> One possible way is to support it directly in perf-probe. If it
>> failed to find probe point from dwarf, try to find from symbol
>> map by using '@VERSION' suffix.
>
> Right, we would be overloading that @ symbol, since version numbers
> usually are very different of file source names :-)

There's not a lot of syntactic difference between "file" and "tag".  I don't think there is any standard for what either can be.  One might expect a "file" to be name.extension, where extension is a finite set (possibly fairly large).  A tag can be almost anything, I think.  One might expect it to end with a number.  I don't think there's a guarantee of either case, though.

It would seem one way to determine whether it's a file or a tag is to try to find it in the symbol tables.  If it's not there, assume it's a file.  (Or vice-versa.)

PC

      reply	other threads:[~2017-04-06  3:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-31 16:06 [PATCH v3] Allow user probes on versioned symbols Paul Clarke
2017-03-31 17:31 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2017-03-31 19:38   ` Paul Clarke
2017-04-03 14:46     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2017-04-04 14:18       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-04-04 14:26         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2017-04-06  3:45           ` Paul Clarke [this message]

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