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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: hupu <hupu.gm@gmail.com>
Cc: Leo Yan <leo.yan@arm.com>, Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com, acme@kernel.org,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com,
	jolsa@kernel.org, adrian.hunter@intel.com, nathan@kernel.org,
	nick.desaulniers+lkml@gmail.com, morbo@google.com,
	justinstitt@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] perf build: Allow passing extra Clang flags via EXTRA_CLANG_FLAGS
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 10:16:24 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aPWNaOqocEPgAJcq@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADHxFxQ5ph5P+ihVw2Qm-f1T-OFUQziyc8fi-k+q3-YgL-XCMw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 19, 2025 at 03:57:27PM +0800, hupu wrote:
> Hi Namhyung,
> Thanks for your reply.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2025 at 10:30 AM Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 18, 2025 at 06:05:03PM +0800, hupu wrote:
> > > Hi Leo, Ian, and fellow maintainers.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 7:47 PM hupu <hupu.gm@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Leo,
> > > > Thank you for your reply.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 5:30 PM Leo Yan <leo.yan@arm.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you installed the GCC cross packages ?
> > > > >
> > > > >  $ sudo apt-get install gcc-aarch64-linux-gnu g++-aarch64-linux-gnu
> > > > >  $ sudo apt-get install libc6-dev-aarch64-cross linux-libc-dev-aarch64-cross
> > > > >  $ sudo apt-get install libc6-dev-arm64-cross linux-libc-dev-arm64-cross
> > > > >
> > > > > My understanding is arm64 cross compilation tries to find headers in the
> > > > > path /usr/aarch64-linux-gnu/include/ (I confirmed this on Ubuntu/Debian
> > > > > distros).  After install GCC cross packages, the headers should appear
> > > > > in the folder.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I hadn’t installed the packages you mentioned earlier, but after
> > > > running the installation commands you provided, I was indeed able to
> > > > successfully build perf.
> > > >
> > > > In fact, I’m currently working on creating an SDK package, which
> > > > includes a cross-toolchain that I built myself using crosstool-NG. My
> > > > initial idea was to install certain third-party libraries (such as the
> > > > packages you mentioned) into the cross-toolchain’s sysroot directory.
> > > > With this approach, even when developing on different host machines,
> > > > we could simply specify the header search path (pointing to the
> > > > cross-toolchain’s sysroot directory) during compilation, and the build
> > > > should succeed without requiring any additional package installation
> > > > on the system.
> > > >
> > > > Based on this, I think allowing users to extend some options via
> > > > EXTRA_CLANG_FLAGS could be a flexible way to handle such cases.
> > > > However, this is just my personal thought and might not be entirely
> > > > correct, so I’d like to hear your advice.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Although installing the GCC cross packages allows me to build perf
> > > successfully, I still prefer to be able to pass additional Clang flags
> > > via EXTRA_CLANG_FLAGS, as this approach feels more flexible to me.
> > >
> > > I look forward to continuing the discussion on this topic.
> >
> > Doesn't EXTRA_CFLAGS work for you?
> >
> 
> 
> I’ve tried using EXTRA_CFLAGS and confirm that it doesn’t work. When I
> build perf with the following command, it still reports errors:
>   make perf ARCH=$ARCH CROSS_COMPILE=$CROSS_COMPILE
> EXTRA_CFLAGS="--sysroot=$SYSROOT"

Thanks for checking this.

> 
> In fact, by checking the code in tools/perf/Makefile.perf, we can see
> that the EXTRA_CFLAGS variable is not passed to Clang at all:
> 
> $(SKEL_TMP_OUT)/%.bpf.o: util/bpf_skel/%.bpf.c $(LIBBPF) $(SKEL_OUT)/vmlinux.h
> $(QUIET_CLANG)$(CLANG) -g -O2 -fno-stack-protector --target=bpf \
>   $(CLANG_OPTIONS) $(BPF_INCLUDE) $(TOOLS_UAPI_INCLUDE) \
>   -include $(OUTPUT)PERF-VERSION-FILE -include util/bpf_skel/perf_version.h \
>   -c $(filter util/bpf_skel/%.bpf.c,$^) -o $@
> 
> 
> As shown above, EXTRA_CFLAGS only affects the GCC cross-compilation
> process and has no impact on the Clang build process.
> That’s why I proposed introducing an EXTRA_CLANG_FLAGS variable to
> provide a way to control Clang’s compilation behavior more flexibly.

One thing I care is that we can set clang as a default compiler using CC
variable then meaning of EXTRA_CFLAGS and EXTRA_CLANG_FLAGS may be
confusing.  I guess EXTRA_BPF_FLAGS is clearer that we want to pass
something when it builds BPF programs.

Thanks,
Namhyung


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-20  1:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-13  8:06 [RFC] perf build: Allow passing extra Clang flags via EXTRA_CLANG_FLAGS hupu
2025-10-13  8:07 ` hupu
2025-10-13 15:46   ` Ian Rogers
2025-10-13 16:14     ` Leo Yan
2025-10-14  2:31       ` hupu
2025-10-15  9:30         ` Leo Yan
2025-10-15 11:47           ` hupu
2025-10-15 12:55             ` Leo Yan
2025-10-18 10:05             ` hupu
2025-10-19  2:30               ` Namhyung Kim
2025-10-19  7:57                 ` hupu
2025-10-20  1:16                   ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2025-10-20  2:38                     ` hupu
2025-10-20  2:40                       ` [PATCH] perf build: Support passing extra Clang options via EXTRA_BPF_FLAGS hupu
2025-10-20  4:16                         ` Namhyung Kim
2025-10-20  8:00                           ` hupu
2025-10-20  8:02                             ` hupu
2025-10-20 10:15                           ` Leo Yan
2025-10-20 12:51                             ` hupu
2025-10-20 13:02                               ` hupu
2025-10-21  3:11                                 ` hupu
2025-11-18  7:18                                   ` hupu
2025-11-18  7:28                                     ` hupu
2025-11-19  9:43                                       ` hupu
2025-11-20 19:22                                         ` Namhyung Kim
2025-11-21 10:17                                           ` hupu
2025-11-24  7:26                                             ` hupu
2025-11-24  7:34                                               ` hupu
2025-11-25  8:13                                                 ` Namhyung Kim
2025-11-25 12:52                                                   ` hupu
2025-11-25 13:07                                                     ` hupu
2025-11-25 16:10                                                       ` Leo Yan
2025-11-26 13:44                                                         ` hupu
2025-12-05  6:33                                                           ` hupu
2025-12-08  9:05                                                             ` hupu
2025-12-10 10:24                                                               ` hupu
2025-12-11 10:39                                                           ` Leo Yan
2025-12-12  6:12                                                             ` hupu
2025-10-20 13:50                               ` Leo Yan
2025-10-20  2:45                       ` hupu
2025-10-14  1:57     ` [RFC] perf build: Allow passing extra Clang flags via EXTRA_CLANG_FLAGS hupu

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