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From: Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>
To: Colton Lewis <coltonlewis@google.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, corbet@lwn.net,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 19/24] KVM: arm64: Implement lazy PMU context swaps
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2025 10:06:22 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aUBOHnT1whwR3vbo@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <gsntecoz2v87.fsf@coltonlewis-kvm.c.googlers.com>

On Fri, Dec 12, 2025 at 10:25:44PM +0000, Colton Lewis wrote:
> Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, Dec 09, 2025 at 08:51:16PM +0000, Colton Lewis wrote:
> > > +enum vcpu_pmu_register_access {
> > > +	VCPU_PMU_ACCESS_UNSET,
> > > +	VCPU_PMU_ACCESS_VIRTUAL,
> > > +	VCPU_PMU_ACCESS_PHYSICAL,
> > > +};
> 
> > This is confusing. Even when the guest is accessing registers directly
> > on the CPU I'd still call that "hardware assisted virtualization" and
> > not "physical".
> 
> It was what I thought described the access pattern. Do you have another
> naming suggestion?

	PMU_STATE_FREE,
	PMU_STATE_GUEST_OWNED,

> > > +	kvm_pmu_set_physical_access(vcpu);
> > > +
> > >   	return true;
> > >   }
> 
> > Aren't there a ton of other registers the guest may access before
> > these two? Having generic PMU register accessors would allow you to
> > manage residence of PMU registers from a single spot.
> 
> Yes but these are the only two that use the old trap handlers. I also
> call set_physical_access from my fast path handler that handles all the
> other registers when partitioned.

The fast path accessors should only be accessing state already loaded
on the CPU. If the guest's PMU context isn't loaded on the CPU then it
should return to a kernel context and do a full put/load on the vCPU.

I'm not seeing how this all fits together but for lazy loading to work
correctly you need to evaluate the state of the vPMU at vcpu_load(). If
there exists an enabled PMC, set PMU_STATE_GUEST_OWNED and load it
upfront.

Otherwise, default to PMU_STATE_FREE until the next register access and
this whole thing resets when the vCPU is scheduled out. I had suggested
to you a while back that you should follow a similar model to the debug
registers, this is how they behave.

Thanks,
Oliver

  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-15 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-09 20:50 [PATCH v5 00/24] ARM64 PMU Partitioning Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 01/24] arm64: cpufeature: Add cpucap for HPMN0 Colton Lewis
2025-12-10 10:54   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-12-12 19:22     ` Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 02/24] KVM: arm64: Move arm_{psci,hypercalls}.h to an internal KVM path Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 03/24] KVM: arm64: Include KVM headers to get forward declarations Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 04/24] KVM: arm64: Move ARM specific headers in include/kvm to arch directory Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 05/24] KVM: arm64: Reorganize PMU includes Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 06/24] KVM: arm64: Reorganize PMU functions Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 07/24] perf: arm_pmuv3: Introduce method to partition the PMU Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 08/24] perf: arm_pmuv3: Generalize counter bitmasks Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 09/24] perf: arm_pmuv3: Keep out of guest counter partition Colton Lewis
2025-12-10 20:21   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-12 20:29     ` Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 10/24] KVM: arm64: Set up FGT for Partitioned PMU Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 21:08   ` Oliver Upton
2025-12-12 20:51     ` Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 11/24] KVM: arm64: Writethrough trapped PMEVTYPER register Colton Lewis
2025-12-10 18:31   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-12 20:27     ` Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 12/24] KVM: arm64: Use physical PMSELR for PMXEVTYPER if partitioned Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 21:14   ` Oliver Upton
2025-12-12 20:54     ` Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 13/24] KVM: arm64: Writethrough trapped PMOVS register Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 21:19   ` Oliver Upton
2025-12-12 21:06     ` Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 14/24] KVM: arm64: Write fast path PMU register handlers Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 15/24] KVM: arm64: Setup MDCR_EL2 to handle a partitioned PMU Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 21:33   ` Oliver Upton
2025-12-12 21:22     ` Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 16/24] KVM: arm64: Account for partitioning in PMCR_EL0 access Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 21:37   ` Oliver Upton
2025-12-12 21:31     ` Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 17/24] KVM: arm64: Context swap Partitioned PMU guest registers Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 21:55   ` Oliver Upton
2025-12-12 21:57     ` Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 18/24] KVM: arm64: Enforce PMU event filter at vcpu_load() Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 22:00   ` Oliver Upton
2025-12-12 21:59     ` Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 19/24] KVM: arm64: Implement lazy PMU context swaps Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 22:06   ` Oliver Upton
2025-12-12 22:25     ` Colton Lewis
2025-12-15 18:06       ` Oliver Upton [this message]
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 20/24] perf: arm_pmuv3: Handle IRQs for Partitioned PMU guest counters Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 22:45   ` Oliver Upton
2025-12-12 22:36     ` Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 21/24] KVM: arm64: Inject recorded guest interrupts Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 22:52   ` Oliver Upton
2025-12-12 22:55     ` Colton Lewis
2025-12-15 17:50       ` Oliver Upton
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 22/24] KVM: arm64: Add KVM_CAP to partition the PMU Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 22:58   ` Oliver Upton
2025-12-12 22:59     ` Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 23/24] KVM: selftests: Add find_bit to KVM library Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 20:51 ` [PATCH v5 24/24] KVM: arm64: selftests: Add test case for partitioned PMU Colton Lewis
2025-12-09 23:00 ` [PATCH v5 00/24] ARM64 PMU Partitioning Oliver Upton

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