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From: Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
To: Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>
Cc: irogers@google.com, namhyung@kernel.org, acme@kernel.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, swapnil.sapkal@amd.com,
	yu.c.chen@intel.com, mark.rutland@arm.com,
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	bristot@redhat.com, adrian.hunter@intel.com, james.clark@arm.com,
	kan.liang@linux.intel.com, gautham.shenoy@amd.com,
	kprateek.nayak@amd.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	yangjihong@bytedance.com, void@manifault.com, tj@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	santosh.shukla@amd.com, ananth.narayan@amd.com,
	sandipan.das@amd.com, mingo@redhat.com,
	Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] perf sched: Introduce stats tool
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 16:27:36 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <af4000b6-02c7-4160-8207-57f34239bd49@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240916164722.1838-1-ravi.bangoria@amd.com>

Hi Ravi,

On 16/09/24 22:17, Ravi Bangoria wrote:
> MOTIVATION
> ----------
> 
> Existing `perf sched` is quite exhaustive and provides lot of insights
> into scheduler behavior but it quickly becomes impractical to use for
> long running or scheduler intensive workload. For ex, `perf sched record`
> has ~7.77% overhead on hackbench (with 25 groups each running 700K loops
> on a 2-socket 128 Cores 256 Threads 3rd Generation EPYC Server), and it
> generates huge 56G perf.data for which perf takes ~137 mins to prepare
> and write it to disk [1].
> 
> Unlike `perf sched record`, which hooks onto set of scheduler tracepoints
> and generates samples on a tracepoint hit, `perf sched stats record` takes
> snapshot of the /proc/schedstat file before and after the workload, i.e.
> there is almost zero interference on workload run. Also, it takes very
> minimal time to parse /proc/schedstat, convert it into perf samples and
> save those samples into perf.data file. Result perf.data file is much

per.data file is empty after the record.

Error:
The perf.data data has no samples!

Thanks and Regards
Madadi Vineeth Reddy

> smaller. So, overall `perf sched stats record` is much more light weight
> compare to `perf sched record`.
> 
> We, internally at AMD, have been using this (a variant of this, known as
> "sched-scoreboard"[2]) and found it to be very useful to analyse impact
> of any scheduler code changes[3][4].
> 
> Please note that, this is not a replacement of perf sched record/report.
> The intended users of the new tool are scheduler developers, not regular
> users.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-17 10:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-16 16:47 [PATCH 0/5] perf sched: Introduce stats tool Ravi Bangoria
2024-09-16 16:47 ` [PATCH 1/5] sched/stats: Print domain name in /proc/schedstat Ravi Bangoria
2024-09-16 16:47 ` [PATCH 2/5] perf sched stats: Add record and rawdump support Ravi Bangoria
2024-09-17 10:35   ` James Clark
2024-09-18  8:52     ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2024-09-26  6:12   ` Namhyung Kim
2024-09-27 11:04     ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2024-09-16 16:47 ` [PATCH 3/5] perf sched stats: Add schedstat v16 support Ravi Bangoria
2024-09-26  6:14   ` Namhyung Kim
2024-09-27 11:08     ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2024-09-16 16:47 ` [PATCH 4/5] perf sched stats: Add support for report subcommand Ravi Bangoria
2024-09-16 16:47 ` [PATCH 5/5] perf sched stats: Add support for live mode Ravi Bangoria
2024-09-17 10:35 ` [PATCH 0/5] perf sched: Introduce stats tool James Clark
2024-09-18 13:19   ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2024-09-17 10:57 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy [this message]
2024-09-18  8:43   ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2024-09-18  8:45   ` Sapkal, Swapnil

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