From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Cc: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] tools build: Only probe the compiler at parse time when it is installed
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2026 12:12:26 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ans72o4MAC03XILw@x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fWRQuo29kBXzOP9jobO6rcTPqZ5PLt42G+0+0Rh2tm7bw@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 11:07:40AM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 8:44 AM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> wrote:
> > Two parse-time probes still invoke $(CC) unconditionally:
> > - LP64 in tools/scripts/Makefile.arch, probing with
> > $(CC) -E -x c, pulled in twice by tools/perf/Makefile.perf;
> > - CC_NO_CLANG in tools/scripts/Makefile.include, probing with
> > $(CC) -dM -E -x c /dev/null.
> > In the corner case where gcc is not yet installed, the very setup the
> > install-build-deps target, added in the next patch of this series, is
> > meant for, these probes make even targets that never compile parse-time
> > spew errors like:
> > /bin/sh: 1: gcc: not found
> > /bin/sh: 1: gcc: not found
> > /bin/sh: 1: gcc: not found
> > Guard both probes with 'command -v' using the first word of CC so a
> > missing compiler is handled silently with the same result as a failing
> > probe (CC_NO_CLANG and LP64 unset/0), and with no behavior change when
> > the compiler is installed.
> > Only the first word is consulted because CC may carry arguments such as
> > 'ccache gcc', and shell implementations differ in how 'command -v'
> > handles multiple words (dash only checks the first, bash any of them),
> > so validating the whole CC value would silently disable both probes on
> > some make SHELLs.
> > Assisted-by: opencode:deepseek-v4-flash-free
> > Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
> > +++ b/tools/scripts/Makefile.arch
> > @@ -38,7 +38,7 @@ ifeq ($(ARCH),loongarch64)
> > SRCARCH := loongarch
> > endif
> > -LP64 := $(shell echo __LP64__ | ${CC} ${CFLAGS} -E -x c - | tail -n 1)
> > +LP64 := $(shell if command -v $(firstword ${CC}) >/dev/null 2>&1; then echo __LP64__ | ${CC} ${CFLAGS} -E -x c -; fi | tail -n 1)
>
> nit: It might be worth adding a comment to explain this fairly complex
> one-liner.
Sure, will add explanations, see below.
> As there are minimum requirements to build the kernel
> (https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/changes.html) does it
> make sense to be defensive about CC not being installed?
Well, the point of this series is to install what is needed to build
perf, gcc included, so on a freshly installed machine the user can just
do:
cd tools/perf
make install-build-deps
And the machine will have all the packages that are needed.
> Perhaps install-build-deps.sh can be part of the wider kernel build
> with flags to specify if you are building the kernel or a tool, where
> depencies are different (e.g. perf doesn't need quota-tools but
> libcapstone is useful).
I think this can be a followup series, i.e. making the kernel have that
target as well.
Having it in perf will showcase its usability and may entice the Kbuild
guys to consider accepting such a functionality.
- Arnaldo
acme@number:~/git/perf-tools-next$ git diff ca62b23f83ddfb8e..
diff --git a/tools/scripts/Makefile.arch b/tools/scripts/Makefile.arch
index e0bca6808ec44ed8..ed5f008d400ed238 100644
--- a/tools/scripts/Makefile.arch
+++ b/tools/scripts/Makefile.arch
@@ -38,6 +38,12 @@ ifeq ($(ARCH),loongarch64)
SRCARCH := loongarch
endif
+# Probe for __LP64__ only when the compiler is installed: this runs at
+# parse time for every target, including ones that never compile, e.g.
+# install-build-deps, and would otherwise spew "gcc: not found" when the
+# compiler is not yet installed. Only the first word of CC is consulted,
+# as CC may carry arguments, e.g. 'ccache gcc'. When the guard fails it
+# prints nothing, leaving LP64 unset, as if the probe had failed.
LP64 := $(shell if command -v $(firstword ${CC}) >/dev/null 2>&1; then echo __LP64__ | ${CC} ${CFLAGS} -E -x c -; fi | tail -n 1)
ifeq ($(LP64), 1)
IS_64_BIT := 1
diff --git a/tools/scripts/Makefile.include b/tools/scripts/Makefile.include
index fff453aac187536e..378387f629603e92 100644
--- a/tools/scripts/Makefile.include
+++ b/tools/scripts/Makefile.include
@@ -98,6 +98,12 @@ else
$(call allow-override,LLVM_STRIP,llvm-strip)
endif
+# The CC_NO_CLANG probe also runs at parse time for targets that never
+# compile, so guard it with 'command -v': when the compiler is not yet
+# installed, e.g. the first install-build-deps run, it would otherwise
+# spew "gcc: not found". Only the first word of CC is consulted, as CC
+# may carry arguments, e.g. 'ccache gcc'. A missing compiler leaves
+# CC_NO_CLANG at 1, as if the probe had failed.
CC_NO_CLANG := $(shell if command -v $(firstword $(CC)) >/dev/null 2>&1; then $(CC) -dM -E -x c /dev/null; fi | grep -Fq "__clang__"; echo $$?)
# Some tools require bpftool
acme@number:~/git/perf-tools-next$
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-10 15:44 [PATCHES v2 0/7] perf build: Add target to install devel packages needed to build perf Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 15:44 ` [PATCH 1/7] tools build: Only probe the compiler at parse time when it is installed Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 18:07 ` Ian Rogers
2026-08-11 15:12 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2026-08-10 15:44 ` [PATCH 2/7] perf build: Add install-build-deps framework to install devel packages Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 15:44 ` [PATCH 3/7] perf build: install-build-deps: add Fedora devel package mapping Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 15:44 ` [PATCH 4/7] perf build: install-build-deps: add Ubuntu " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 15:44 ` [PATCH 5/7] perf build: install-build-deps: add Debian " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 15:44 ` [PATCH 6/7] perf build: Remove leftover feature tests for removed cxx and clang support Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 15:44 ` [PATCH 7/7] perf build: install-build-deps: add RHEL family devel package mapping Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 16:09 ` sashiko-bot
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2026-08-11 18:28 [PATCHES v9 0/7] perf build: Add target to install devel packages needed to build perf Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-11 18:28 ` [PATCH 1/7] tools build: Only probe the compiler at parse time when it is installed Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-11 15:19 [PATCHES v8 0/7] perf build: Add target to install devel packages needed to build perf Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-11 15:19 ` [PATCH 1/7] tools build: Only probe the compiler at parse time when it is installed Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-11 1:28 [PATCHES v7 0/7] perf build: Add target to install devel packages needed to build perf Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-11 1:28 ` [PATCH 1/7] tools build: Only probe the compiler at parse time when it is installed Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-11 0:46 [PATCHES v6 0/7] perf build: Add target to install devel packages needed to build perf Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-11 0:46 ` [PATCH 1/7] tools build: Only probe the compiler at parse time when it is installed Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 21:46 [PATCHES v5 0/7] perf build: Add target to install devel packages needed to build perf Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 21:46 ` [PATCH 1/7] tools build: Only probe the compiler at parse time when it is installed Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 19:34 [PATCHES v4 0/7] perf build: Add target to install devel packages needed to build perf Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 19:35 ` [PATCH 1/7] tools build: Only probe the compiler at parse time when it is installed Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 18:15 [PATCHES v3 0/7] perf build: Add target to install devel packages needed to build perf Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 18:15 ` [PATCH 1/7] tools build: Only probe the compiler at parse time when it is installed Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 0:51 [PATCHES v1 0/7] perf build: Add target to install devel packages needed to build perf Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-10 0:51 ` [PATCH 1/7] tools build: Only probe the compiler at parse time when it is installed Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
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