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From: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
To: "Wang, Wei W" <wei.w.wang@intel.com>,
	"Li, Xiaoyao" <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	"Christopherson,, Sean" <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@intel.com>,
	"Kleen, Andi" <andi.kleen@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] KVM: VMX: Fix VM entry failure on PT_MODE_HOST_GUEST while host is using PT
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 10:41:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b3d3fd4c-b191-c4e4-ac95-c46f944c65d6@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DS0PR11MB63739F4DA17F30B3162837B9DC4D9@DS0PR11MB6373.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>



On 2022-09-19 9:46 a.m., Wang, Wei W wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 9:27 PM, Liang, Kan wrote:
>>> Did you mean to handle the PT event in the proposed driver API? Event
>>> status is just one of the things. There are other things if we want to
>>> make it complete for this, e.g. event->oncpu = -1, and eventually seems we will
>> re-implement perf_event_disable_*.
>>>
>>
>> As my understand, perf always check the status first. If it's a stopped or
>> inactivated event, I don't think event->oncpu will be touched. That's why I think
>> the proposed driver API should be acceptable.
> 
> That's the implementation thing. We need to make it architecturally clean though.
> 
>>
>>> Btw, Xiaoyao has made it work with perf_event_disable_local, and don’t have
>> that many changes.
>>> If necessary, we can post the 2nd version out to double check.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not worry about which ways (either perf_event_disable_local() or the
>> proposed PT driver API) are chosen to stop the PT. If the existing perf_event
>> interfaces can meet your requirement, that's perfect.
>>
>> My real concern is the pt_save_msr()/pt_load_msr(). I don't think it's a job for
>> KVM. See atomic_switch_perf_msrs(). It is the perf core driver rather than KVM
>> that tells which MSRs should be saved/restored in VMCS.
>> We should do the same thing for PT. (Actually, I think we already encounter
>> issues with the current KVM-dominated method. KVM saves/restores
>> unnecessary MSRs. Right?)
>>
> 
> Right. It's on my plan to improve the current PT virtualization, and
> planed to be the next step after this fix. The general rule is the same: make KVM a user
> of perf, that is, we leave those save/restore work to be completely done by the
> perf (driver) side, so we will eventually remove the KVM side pt_save/load_msr.
> To be more precise, it will work as below:
> - we will create a guest event, like what we did for lbr virtualization

Another fake event? We have to specially handle it in the perf code. I
don't think it's a clean way for perf.

> - on VMEnter:
>   -- perf_disable_event_local(host_event);
>   -- perf_enable_event_local(guest_event);
> - on VMExit:
>   -- perf_disable_event_local(guest_event);
>   -- perf_enable_event_local(host_event);

Why we cannot use the same way as the perf core driver to switch the
MSRs in the VMCS?

You just need one generic function, perf_guest_get_msrs(), for both PT
and core driver. If you have to disable PT explicitly before VMCS, I
think you can do it in the PT specific perf_guest_get_msrs().

Anyway, that's an improvement for the current code. I don't have a
problem, if you prefer to separate the fix patch and improvement patch.

Thanks,
Kan
> 
>> To do so, I think there may be two ways.
>> - Since MSRs have to be switched for both PT and core drivers, it sounds
>> reasonable to provide a new generic interface in the perf_event. The new
>> interface is to tell KVM which MSRs should be saved/restored. Then KVM can
>> decide to save/restore via VMCS or direct MSR access. I suspect this way
>> requires big change, but it will benefit all the drivers which have similar
>> requirements.
>> - The proposed driver API. The MSRs are saved/restored in the PT driver.
> 
> As shown above, no need for those. We can completely reuse the
> perf side save/restore.
> 
> Thanks,
> Wei

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-19 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-25  8:56 [RFC PATCH 0/2] KVM: VMX: Fix VM entry failure on PT_MODE_HOST_GUEST while host is using PT Xiaoyao Li
2022-08-25  8:56 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] perf/x86/intel/pt: Introduce intel_pt_{stop,resume}() Xiaoyao Li
2022-08-25 15:23   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-25  8:56 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] KVM: VMX: Stop/resume host PT before/after VM entry when PT_MODE_HOST_GUEST Xiaoyao Li
2022-08-25 15:34   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-25 15:45     ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-08-25 15:59       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-26  6:32         ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-08-26 15:08           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-29  7:49 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] KVM: VMX: Fix VM entry failure on PT_MODE_HOST_GUEST while host is using PT Wang, Wei W
2022-08-29 17:33   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-30  6:02     ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-08  7:25   ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-09-08  8:53     ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-14  4:15   ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-09-14  6:16     ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-14 20:25       ` Liang, Kan
2022-09-15  2:46         ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-15 13:54           ` Liang, Kan
2022-09-15 14:39             ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-15 15:42               ` Liang, Kan
2022-09-16  2:30                 ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-16 13:27                   ` Liang, Kan
2022-09-19 13:46                     ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-19 14:41                       ` Liang, Kan [this message]
2022-09-19 15:22                         ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-19 15:55                           ` Liang, Kan

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