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From: "Zhang, Rui" <rui.zhang@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 08/10] perf/x86/rapl: Modify the generic variable names to *_pkg*
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 02:18:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bf76302d2d427522d4842cb1df8f58700cb669d4.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9f99286e-b840-4c50-8ff4-a25f2d2fdc67@amd.com>

On Wed, 2024-07-03 at 12:01 +0530, Dhananjay Ugwekar wrote:
> Hi Rui,
> 
> On 7/3/2024 9:37 AM, Zhang, Rui wrote:
> > On Tue, 2024-07-02 at 15:50 +0530, Dhananjay Ugwekar wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > For Intel products, we have
> > > > 1. Casecadelake-AP which has multi-die per package and has per-
> > > > die
> > > > RAPL
> > > > MSRs
> > > > 2. all other platforms which has single-die per package, so its
> > > > RAPL
> > > > MSRs can be considered as either package-scope or die-scope
> > > > This applies to Thermal MSRs as well.
> > > > 
> > > > so for these MSRs, we can treat them as
> > > > 1. always die-scope for all existing platforms
> > > > or
> > > > 2. package-scope with the exception of Casecadelake-ap
> > > > And current kernel code follows rule 1.
> > > > 
> > > > I propose we switch to rule 2 for these code because rule 1 can
> > > > be
> > > > broke on future multi-die systems (This is already true for
> > > > Thermal
> > > > MSRs).
> > > 
> > > I have a doubt about this, won't the future Intel multi-die
> > > systems 
> > > have die-scope for the RAPL PMU like Casecadelake-AP?
> > 
> > For future multi-die systems that I know, the RAPL is still package
> > scope 
> 
> I think in that case we can go with rule 2, it would be future proof
> for Intel systems. If you agree, I can make the change in next
> version.
> 
> Something like below?,
> 
> -#define rapl_pmu_is_pkg_scope()                         \
> -        (boot_cpu_data.x86_vendor == X86_VENDOR_AMD || 
> \                                                                    
>                                                                      
>                          
> -        boot_cpu_data.x86_vendor == X86_VENDOR_HYGON)
> 
> +#define rapl_pmu_is_die_scope()                        \
> +       (boot_cpu_data.x86_model_id == CASCADELAKE)
> 
sounds good to me. Just a reminder that using boot_cpu_data.vfm is a
better choice here.

And it would be great to get Peter' view on this.

thanks,
rui

> Regards,
> Dhananjay
> 
> but it is just lucky that RAPL control is not exposed via the
> > MSRs so rule 1 is not actually broke for RAPL PMU (while it is
> > indeed
> > broken for other drivers like thermal).
> > 
> > In short, if we stick with rule 1, the RAPL PMU still works.
> > Switching> to rule 2 to be consistent with the other drivers is
> > also a choice IMV.> 
> > thanks,
> > rui
> > > 
> > > If yes, then rule 1 above seems better.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Dhananjay
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > In this sense, I think it is okay to call it pkg level rapl for
> > > > both
> > > > Intel and AMD.
> > > > 
> > > > thanks,
> > > > rui
> > > > 
> > 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-05  2:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-24  5:58 [PATCH v3 00/10] Add per-core RAPL energy counter support for AMD CPUs Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-06-24  5:58 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] x86/topology: Introduce topology_logical_core_id() Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-06-26 14:14   ` Zhang, Rui
2024-06-24  5:58 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] perf/x86/rapl: Fix the energy-pkg event for AMD CPUs Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-06-26 14:18   ` Zhang, Rui
2024-06-26 15:34     ` Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-07-01 12:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-02  9:39     ` Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-06-24  5:59 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] perf/x86/rapl: Rename rapl_pmu variables Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-06-24  5:59 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] perf/x86/rapl: Make rapl_model struct global Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-06-24  5:59 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] perf/x86/rapl: Move cpumask variable to rapl_pmus struct Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-07-01 13:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-02 10:16     ` Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-06-24  5:59 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] perf/x86/rapl: Add wrapper for online/offline functions Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-06-24  5:59 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] perf/x86/rapl: Add an argument to the cleanup and init functions Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-06-24  5:59 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] perf/x86/rapl: Modify the generic variable names to *_pkg* Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-07-01 13:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-02  2:25     ` Zhang, Rui
2024-07-02 10:20       ` Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-07-03  4:07         ` Zhang, Rui
2024-07-03  6:31           ` Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-07-05  2:18             ` Zhang, Rui [this message]
2024-07-05  9:24               ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-08  1:56                 ` Zhang, Rui
2024-06-24  5:59 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] perf/x86/rapl: Remove the global variable rapl_msrs Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-06-24  5:59 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] perf/x86/rapl: Add per-core energy counter support for AMD CPUs Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-06-26 15:18   ` Zhang, Rui
2024-06-26 16:37     ` Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-06-27  6:49       ` Zhang, Rui
2024-06-27 11:13         ` Dhananjay Ugwekar
2024-06-24  6:39 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] Add per-core RAPL " K Prateek Nayak

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