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From: Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
	James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org>, Leo Yan <leo.yan@arm.com>,
	Joe Mario <jmario@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	Santosh Shukla <santosh.shukla@amd.com>,
	Ananth Narayan <ananth.narayan@amd.com>,
	Sandipan Das <sandipan.das@amd.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] perf/amd/ibs: Add load/store SW filters to IBS OP PMU
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 10:42:38 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dae6bb73-9c13-4b44-a766-0c7c09e5b79f@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aD6bkAXjRllFvRTV@google.com>

Hi Ingo, Namhyung,

>>> An alternate approach is mem_op BPF filter:
>>>
>>>   perf record --filter "mem_op == load || mem_op == store" ...
>>>
>>> However, there are few issues with it:
>>> o BPF filter is called after preparing entire perf sample. If the sample
>>>   does not satisfy the filtering criteria, all the efforts of preparing
>>>   perf sample gets wasted.
>>
>> Could we add an 'early' BPF callback point as well, to fast-discard 
>> samples?
> 
> I guess that would require a new BPF program type than PERF_EVENT and
> handle driver-specific details.

Right.

>>> o BPF filter requires root privilege.
>>
>> Could we add 'built-in', 'safe' BPF scripts that are specifically 
>> prepared for perf events filtering purposes, that can be toggled by 
>> non-root users as well? These could be toggled by tooling via sysfs or 
>> so, or even via the perf syscall if that turns out to be the better 
>> approach.
> 
> We have BPF filter framework in the perf tools and it can be run as
> normal user.  But root user should load and pin the BPF program prior
> to use like below.
> 
>   $ sudo perf record --setup-filter pin
> 
>   $ perf record -d -e ibs_op/swfilt/u --filter 'mem_op == load' ...

Thanks Namhyung.

Ingo, Do you feel the idea of perf specific 'safe' BPF script is still
worth pursuing despite similar functionality is already provided by
--setup-filter?

Thanks,
Ravi

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-10  5:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-29 12:34 [PATCH 0/4] perf/amd/ibs: Introduce load/store SW filter Ravi Bangoria
2025-05-29 12:34 ` [PATCH 1/4] perf/amd/ibs: Add load/store SW filters to IBS OP PMU Ravi Bangoria
2025-05-31  7:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-06-03  6:52     ` Namhyung Kim
2025-06-10  5:12       ` Ravi Bangoria [this message]
2025-05-29 12:34 ` [PATCH 2/4] perf mem/c2c amd: Wire IBS OP PMU load/store SW filter Ravi Bangoria
2025-05-29 12:34 ` [PATCH 3/4] perf test amd: Add IBS load/store swfilt tests Ravi Bangoria
2025-05-29 12:34 ` [PATCH 4/4] perf doc amd: Update perf-amd-ibs man page Ravi Bangoria

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