From: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@huawei.com>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
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"Junhao He" <hejunhao3@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 8/8] perf pmu: Move pmu_metrics_table__find and remove ARM override
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:39:09 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e8603b0c-86db-c258-179a-f228c43ebf0b@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fWw04Qi+3=y7M4uMrhgrFWpnF7mZ09yb4v0P0qFT1Gfnw@mail.gmail.com>
On 2024/11/10 0:10, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 2:54 AM Yicong Yang <yangyicong@huawei.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 2024/11/8 0:20, Ian Rogers wrote:
>>> Move pmu_metrics_table__find to the jevents.py generated pmu-events.c
>>> and remove indirection override for ARM. The movement removes
>>> perf_pmu__find_metrics_table that exists to enable the ARM
>>> override. The ARM override isn't necessary as just the CPUID, not PMU,
>>> is used in the metric table lookup. On non-ARM the CPU argument is
>>> just ignored for the CPUID, for ARM -1 is passed so that the CPUID for
>>> the first logical CPU is read.
>>
>> Since the logic here's already been touching, is it possible to step it further to just
>> ignore the CPUID matching when finding the system metrics/events tables? It's may not be
>> that reasonable for finding a system metrics/events from the CPUID, since one system PMU may
>> exists on different platforms with different CPU types.
>
> The issue is for conciseness reasons we let metrics and metric
> thresholds refer to other metrics, for example:
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perf/perf-tools-next.git/tree/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/icelakex/icx-metrics.json#n78
> ```
> {
> "BriefDescription": "This category represents fraction of
> slots where no uops are being delivered due to a lack of required
> resources for accepting new uops in the Backend",
> "MetricExpr": "topdown\\-be\\-bound / (topdown\\-fe\\-bound +
> topdown\\-bad\\-spec + topdown\\-retiring + topdown\\-be\\-bound) + 5
> * cpu@INT_MISC.RECOVERY_CYCLES\\,cmask\\=1\\,edge@ / tma_info_slots",
> "MetricGroup": "TmaL1;TopdownL1;tma_L1_group",
> "MetricName": "tma_backend_bound",
> "MetricThreshold": "tma_backend_bound > 0.2",
> "MetricgroupNoGroup": "TopdownL1",
> "PublicDescription": "This category represents fraction of
> slots where no uops are being delivered due to a lack of required
> resources for accepting new uops in the Backend. Backend is the
> portion of the processor core where the out-of-order scheduler
> dispatches ready uops into their respective execution units; and once
> completed these uops get retired according to program order. For
> example; stalls due to data-cache misses or stalls due to the divider
> unit being overloaded are both categorized under Backend Bound.
> Backend Bound is further divided into two main categories: Memory
> Bound and Core Bound. Sample with: TOPDOWN.BACKEND_BOUND_SLOTS",
> "ScaleUnit": "100%"
> },
> ```
>
> The system metrics were added on top of this and we never rethought
> the design. For a metric to refer to another metric there needs to be
> some kind of place we look up from and for that we use the CPUID
> associated table. Perhaps the easiest thing is that if no CPUID table
> is matched we have an empty table.
>
thanks for the clarificaiton. ok then it's different from my problem and I
shouldn't have mixed them up.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-11 8:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-07 16:20 [PATCH v2 0/8] Refactor cpuid and metric table lookup code Ian Rogers
2024-11-07 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] perf jevents: fix breakage when do perf stat on system metric Ian Rogers
2024-11-07 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] perf header: Move is_cpu_online to numa bench Ian Rogers
2024-11-07 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] perf header: Refactor get_cpuid to take a CPU for ARM Ian Rogers
2024-11-07 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] perf arm64 header: Use cpu argument in get_cpuid Ian Rogers
2024-11-07 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] perf header: Avoid transitive PMU includes Ian Rogers
2024-11-07 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] perf header: Pass a perf_cpu rather than a PMU to get_cpuid_str Ian Rogers
2024-11-07 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] perf jevents: Add map_for_cpu Ian Rogers
2024-11-07 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] perf pmu: Move pmu_metrics_table__find and remove ARM override Ian Rogers
2024-11-09 10:54 ` Yicong Yang
2024-11-09 16:10 ` Ian Rogers
2024-11-11 8:39 ` Yicong Yang [this message]
2024-11-08 2:55 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] Refactor cpuid and metric table lookup code Xu Yang
2024-11-14 18:31 ` Ian Rogers
2024-11-15 15:35 ` James Clark
2024-11-15 15:43 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2024-11-16 19:47 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2024-12-11 22:32 ` patchwork-bot+linux-riscv
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