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From: Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>
To: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@arm.com>
Cc: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	Joonas Lahtinen <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/9] mm: convert PTE table entry to pte
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2026 08:58:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fab9fc78-1e1d-4d5b-a9ca-92f3ebd04108-agordeev@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260806083926.1807279-7-usama.anjum@arm.com>

On Thu, Aug 06, 2026 at 09:38:44AM +0100, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> The non-MMU stub receives hw_pte_t but returns a logical pte_t
> value. Convert the stored entry through __pte_from_hw() before
> returning.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@arm.com>
> ---
>  include/linux/hugetlb.h | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/hugetlb.h b/include/linux/hugetlb.h
> index bc0b9c65aa1d0..9e8b391aa4bc9 100644
> --- a/include/linux/hugetlb.h
> +++ b/include/linux/hugetlb.h
> @@ -1283,7 +1283,7 @@ static inline pte_t huge_ptep_clear_flush(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>  #ifdef CONFIG_MMU
>  	return ptep_get(ptep);
>  #else
> -	return *ptep;
> +	return __pte_from_hw(*ptep);

But this is a direct dereferencing, which breaks the whole point, isn't it?

What about introducing something like pte_t ptep_get_sw(hw_pte_t *ptep)
to be used in exactly situations like this? With that the semantics of
hw_pte_t pointers becomes straightforward and closes the still ongoing
"storage vs lifetime" discussion:

hw_pte_t*     points to HW-formatted page table entries

ptep_get()    is used to obtain HW-linked/attached entries, and may wire
              extra code like [1] or [2]

ptep_get_sw() is used to obtain HW-unlinked/unattached entries and in
              most cases is just a direct dereference

The caller should always know whether the entry is attached or not, so
confusions like [3] are avoided.

1. https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20260526-kpkeys-v8-21-eaaacdacc67c@arm.com/
2. https://lore.kernel.org/linux-s390/650903a4-0dd9-4e6b-9d4b-3c32c5657236-agordeev@linux.ibm.com/
3. https://lore.kernel.org/linux-s390/b44e071d-7c9d-4e7e-a84d-4af3499a5a05@arm.com/

>  #endif
>  }
>  
> -- 
> 2.47.3
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-07  6:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-06  8:38 [PATCH 0/9] mm: distinguish PTE table storage from PTE values Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-08-06  8:38 ` [PATCH 1/9] mm: introduce hw_pte_t for PTE table storage Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-08-07  7:09   ` Alexander Gordeev
2026-08-07 15:24     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-08-06  8:38 ` [PATCH 2/9] mm: make hw_pte_t visible to generic PTE interfaces Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-08-06  8:38 ` [PATCH 3/9] mm: name pointers to copied PTE values ptentp Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-08-06  8:38 ` [PATCH 4/9] mm: use hw_pte_t for generic PTE table storage Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-08-06  9:00   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-06  8:38 ` [PATCH 5/9] mm: convert PTE table entries in ptep_get() Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-08-06  8:57   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-06  8:38 ` [PATCH 6/9] mm: convert PTE table entry to pte Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-08-07  6:58   ` Alexander Gordeev [this message]
2026-08-07 16:26     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-08-06  8:38 ` [PATCH 7/9] mm/kasan: use hw_pte_t for the early shadow PTE table Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-08-06  9:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-06  8:38 ` [PATCH 8/9] drm/i915: use hw_pte_t for PTE range callbacks Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-08-06  8:38 ` [PATCH 9/9] xen: " Muhammad Usama Anjum

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