From: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-perf-use." <linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
Chun-Tse Shao <ctshao@google.com>,
Thomas Richter <tmricht@linux.ibm.com>, Leo Yan <leo.yan@arm.com>,
bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev>,
Song Liu <song@kernel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: perf regression. Was: [PATCH V4 01/16] perf: Fix the throttle logic for a group
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 13:51:55 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb64520f-3890-4cdf-9c12-73d6b8de584b@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQL_v4SscxVK5fLxKo5Z4+LJtVfpvrJ4+ztu-ecPfxwrhQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 2025-06-02 12:24 p.m., Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 5:55 AM Liang, Kan <kan.liang@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alexei,
>>
>> On 2025-06-01 8:30 p.m., Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 11:16:29AM -0700, kan.liang@linux.intel.com wrote:
>>>> From: Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
>>>>
>>>> The current throttle logic doesn't work well with a group, e.g., the
>>>> following sampling-read case.
>>>>
>>>> $ perf record -e "{cycles,cycles}:S" ...
>>>>
>>>> $ perf report -D | grep THROTTLE | tail -2
>>>> THROTTLE events: 426 ( 9.0%)
>>>> UNTHROTTLE events: 425 ( 9.0%)
>>>>
>>>> $ perf report -D | grep PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE -a4 | tail -n 5
>>>> 0 1020120874009167 0x74970 [0x68]: PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE(IP, 0x1):
>>>> ... sample_read:
>>>> .... group nr 2
>>>> ..... id 0000000000000327, value 000000000cbb993a, lost 0
>>>> ..... id 0000000000000328, value 00000002211c26df, lost 0
>>>>
>>>> The second cycles event has a much larger value than the first cycles
>>>> event in the same group.
>>>>
>>>> The current throttle logic in the generic code only logs the THROTTLE
>>>> event. It relies on the specific driver implementation to disable
>>>> events. For all ARCHs, the implementation is similar. Only the event is
>>>> disabled, rather than the group.
>>>>
>>>> The logic to disable the group should be generic for all ARCHs. Add the
>>>> logic in the generic code. The following patch will remove the buggy
>>>> driver-specific implementation.
>>>>
>>>> The throttle only happens when an event is overflowed. Stop the entire
>>>> group when any event in the group triggers the throttle.
>>>> The MAX_INTERRUPTS is set to all throttle events.
>>>>
>>>> The unthrottled could happen in 3 places.
>>>> - event/group sched. All events in the group are scheduled one by one.
>>>> All of them will be unthrottled eventually. Nothing needs to be
>>>> changed.
>>>> - The perf_adjust_freq_unthr_events for each tick. Needs to restart the
>>>> group altogether.
>>>> - The __perf_event_period(). The whole group needs to be restarted
>>>> altogether as well.
>>>>
>>>> With the fix,
>>>> $ sudo perf report -D | grep PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE -a4 | tail -n 5
>>>> 0 3573470770332 0x12f5f8 [0x70]: PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE(IP, 0x2):
>>>> ... sample_read:
>>>> .... group nr 2
>>>> ..... id 0000000000000a28, value 00000004fd3dfd8f, lost 0
>>>> ..... id 0000000000000a29, value 00000004fd3dfd8f, lost 0
>>>>
>>>> Suggested-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> kernel/events/core.c | 66 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
>>>> 1 file changed, 46 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> This patch breaks perf hw events somehow.
>>>
>>> After merging this into bpf trees we see random "watchdog: BUG: soft lockup"
>>> with various stack traces followed up:
>>> [ 78.620749] Sending NMI from CPU 8 to CPUs 0:
>>> [ 76.387722] NMI backtrace for cpu 0
>>> [ 76.387722] CPU: 0 UID: 0 PID: 0 Comm: swapper/0 Tainted: G O L 6.15.0-10818-ge0f0ee1c31de #1163 PREEMPT
>>> [ 76.387722] Tainted: [O]=OOT_MODULE, [L]=SOFTLOCKUP
>>> [ 76.387722] Hardware name: QEMU Standard PC (i440FX + PIIX, 1996), BIOS rel-1.14.0-0-g155821a1990b-prebuilt.qemu.org 04/01/2014
>>> [ 76.387722] RIP: 0010:_raw_spin_lock_irqsave+0xc/0x40
>>> [ 76.387722] Call Trace:
>>> [ 76.387722] <IRQ>
>>> [ 76.387722] hrtimer_try_to_cancel.part.0+0x24/0xe0
>>> [ 76.387722] hrtimer_cancel+0x21/0x40
>>> [ 76.387722] cpu_clock_event_stop+0x64/0x70
>>
>>
>> The issues should be fixed by the patch.
>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250528175832.2999139-1-kan.liang@linux.intel.com/
>>
>> Could you please give it a try?
>
> Thanks. It fixes it, but the commit log says that
> only cpu-clock and task_clock are affected,
> which are SW events.
Yes, only the two SW events are affected.
>
> While our tests are locking while setting up:
>
> struct perf_event_attr attr = {
> .freq = 1,
> .type = PERF_TYPE_HARDWARE,
> .config = PERF_COUNT_HW_CPU_CYCLES,
> };
>
> Is it because we run in x86 VM and HW_CPU_CYCLES is mapped
> to cpu-clock sw ?
No, that's from different PMU. We never map HW_CPU_CYCLES to a SW event.
It will error our if the PMU is not available.
I'm not familiar with your test case and env. At least, I saw
PERF_COUNT_SW_CPU_CLOCK is used in the case unpriv_bpf_disabled.
Thanks,
Kan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-02 17:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-20 18:16 [PATCH V4 00/16] perf: Fix the throttle logic for group kan.liang
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 01/16] perf: Fix the throttle logic for a group kan.liang
2025-05-20 22:02 ` Namhyung Kim
2025-05-27 16:16 ` Leo Yan
2025-05-27 19:30 ` Liang, Kan
2025-05-28 10:28 ` Leo Yan
2025-05-28 14:51 ` Liang, Kan
2025-06-02 0:30 ` perf regression. Was: " Alexei Starovoitov
2025-06-02 12:55 ` Liang, Kan
2025-06-02 16:24 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-06-02 17:51 ` Liang, Kan [this message]
2025-06-02 18:14 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 02/16] perf: Only dump the throttle log for the leader kan.liang
2025-05-20 22:02 ` Namhyung Kim
2025-05-21 12:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-21 13:55 ` Liang, Kan
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 03/16] perf/x86/intel: Remove driver-specific throttle support kan.liang
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 04/16] perf/x86/amd: " kan.liang
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 05/16] perf/x86/zhaoxin: " kan.liang
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 06/16] powerpc/perf: " kan.liang
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 07/16] s390/perf: " kan.liang
2025-07-23 8:06 ` Sumanth Korikkar
2025-08-06 8:37 ` Sumanth Korikkar
2025-08-06 17:05 ` Liang, Kan
2025-08-11 14:02 ` Sumanth Korikkar
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 08/16] perf/arm: " kan.liang
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 09/16] perf/apple_m1: " kan.liang
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 10/16] alpha/perf: " kan.liang
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 11/16] arc/perf: " kan.liang
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 12/16] csky/perf: " kan.liang
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 13/16] loongarch/perf: " kan.liang
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 14/16] sparc/perf: " kan.liang
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 15/16] xtensa/perf: " kan.liang
2025-05-20 18:16 ` [PATCH V4 16/16] mips/perf: " kan.liang
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