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From: Colton Lewis <coltonlewis@google.com>
To: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/23] perf: arm_pmuv3: Introduce method to partition the PMU
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 20:05:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <gsntecv8aosz.fsf@coltonlewis-kvm.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aFpOI7cWTOAIjNjV@linux.dev> (message from Oliver Upton on Tue, 24 Jun 2025 00:05:07 -0700)

Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev> writes:

> On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 06:26:42PM +0000, Colton Lewis wrote:
>> Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev> writes:

>> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:13:07PM +0000, Colton Lewis wrote:
>> > > For PMUv3, the register field MDCR_EL2.HPMN partitiones the PMU
>> > > counters into two ranges where counters 0..HPMN-1 are accessible by
>> > > EL1 and, if allowed, EL0 while counters HPMN..N are only accessible  
>> by
>> > > EL2.

>> > > Create module parameters partition_pmu and reserved_guest_counters to
>> > > reserve a number of counters for the guest. These numbers are set at
>> > > boot because the perf subsystem assumes the number of counters will
>> > > not change after the PMU is probed.

>> > > Introduce the function armv8pmu_partition() to modify the PMU  
>> driver's
>> > > cntr_mask of available counters to exclude the counters being  
>> reserved
>> > > for the guest and record reserved_guest_counters as the maximum
>> > > allowable value for HPMN.

>> > > Due to the difficulty this feature would create for the driver  
>> running
>> > > at EL1 on the host, partitioning is only allowed in VHE mode. Working
>> > > on nVHE mode would require a hypercall for every counter access in  
>> the
>> > > driver because the counters reserved for the host by HPMN are only
>> > > accessible to EL2.

>> > > Signed-off-by: Colton Lewis <coltonlewis@google.com>
>> > > ---
>> > >   arch/arm/include/asm/arm_pmuv3.h   | 10 ++++
>> > >   arch/arm64/include/asm/arm_pmuv3.h |  5 ++
>> > >   drivers/perf/arm_pmuv3.c           | 95  
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>> > >   include/linux/perf/arm_pmu.h       |  1 +
>> > >   4 files changed, 109 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

>> > > diff --git a/arch/arm/include/asm/arm_pmuv3.h
>> > > b/arch/arm/include/asm/arm_pmuv3.h
>> > > index 2ec0e5e83fc9..9dc43242538c 100644
>> > > --- a/arch/arm/include/asm/arm_pmuv3.h
>> > > +++ b/arch/arm/include/asm/arm_pmuv3.h
>> > > @@ -228,6 +228,11 @@ static inline bool kvm_set_pmuserenr(u64 val)

>> > >   static inline void kvm_vcpu_pmu_resync_el0(void) {}

>> > > +static inline bool has_vhe(void)
>> > > +{
>> > > +	return false;
>> > > +}
>> > > +

>> > This has nothing to do with PMUv3, I'm a bit surprised to see you're
>> > touching 32-bit ARM. Can you just gate the whole partitioning thing on
>> > arm64?

>> The PMUv3 driver also has to compile on 32-bit ARM.

> Quite aware.

>> My first series had the partitioning code in arch/arm64 but you asked me
>> to move it to the PMUv3 driver.

>> How are you suggesting I square those two requirements?

> You should try to structure your predicates in such a way that the
> partitioning stuff all resolves to false for 32 bit arm, generally. That
> way we can avoid stubbing out silly things like has_vhe() which doesn't
> make sense in the context of 32 bit.

Okay. I will do that. When I was reworking it I thought it looked weird
to have the predicates live in a different location than the main
partitioning function.

>> > > +static bool partition_pmu __read_mostly;
>> > > +static u8 reserved_guest_counters __read_mostly;
>> > > +
>> > > +module_param(partition_pmu, bool, 0);
>> > > +MODULE_PARM_DESC(partition_pmu,
>> > > +		 "Partition the PMU into host and guest VM counters [y/n]");
>> > > +
>> > > +module_param(reserved_guest_counters, byte, 0);
>> > > +MODULE_PARM_DESC(reserved_guest_counters,
>> > > +		 "How many counters to reserve for guest VMs [0-$NR_COUNTERS]");
>> > > +

>> > This is confusing and not what we discussed offline.

>> > Please use a single parameter that describes the number of counters  
>> used
>> > by the *host*. This affects the *host* PMU driver, KVM can discover  
>> (and
>> > use) the leftovers.

>> > If the single module parameter goes unspecified the user did not ask  
>> for
>> > PMU partitioning.

>> I understand what we discussed offline, but I had a dilemma.

>> If we do a single module parameter for number of counters used by the
>> host, then it defaults to 0 if unset and there is no way to distinguish
>> between no partitioning and a request for partitioning reserving 0
>> counters to the host which I also thought you requested. Would you be
>> happy leaving no way to specify that?

> You can make the command line use a signed integer for storage and a
> reset value of -1.

> -1 would imply default behavior (no partitioning) and a non-negative
> value would imply partitioning.

Good idea. I thought of that solution myself for the first time after I
logged off yesterday. Slightly embarrassed I didn't see it sooner :(

>> In any case, I think the usage is more self explainatory if
>> partitition=[y/n] is a separate bit.

> What would be the user's intent of "partition_pmu=n  
> reserved_guest_counters=$X"?

That doesn't make sense, which is a decent argument for using just one
parameter. I'm now fine with going back to just reserved_host_counters.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-24 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-20 22:13 [PATCH v2 00/23] ARM64 PMU Partitioning Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 01/23] arm64: cpufeature: Add cpucap for HPMN0 Colton Lewis
2025-06-21  0:44   ` Oliver Upton
2025-06-23 18:25     ` Colton Lewis
2025-06-24  7:28       ` Oliver Upton
2025-06-24 20:05         ` Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 02/23] arm64: Generate sign macro for sysreg Enums Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 03/23] arm64: cpufeature: Add cpucap for PMICNTR Colton Lewis
2025-06-21  0:45   ` Oliver Upton
2025-06-23 18:25     ` Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 04/23] arm64: Define PMI{CNTR,FILTR}_EL0 as undef_access Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 05/23] KVM: arm64: Cleanup PMU includes Colton Lewis
2025-06-21 14:56   ` kernel test robot
2025-06-23 22:04     ` Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 06/23] KVM: arm64: Reorganize PMU functions Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 07/23] perf: arm_pmuv3: Introduce method to partition the PMU Colton Lewis
2025-06-21  1:06   ` Oliver Upton
2025-06-23 18:26     ` Colton Lewis
2025-06-24  7:05       ` Oliver Upton
2025-06-24 20:05         ` Colton Lewis [this message]
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 07/23] perf: pmuv3: " Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 08/23] perf: arm_pmuv3: Generalize counter bitmasks Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 09/23] perf: arm_pmuv3: Keep out of guest counter partition Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 10/23] KVM: arm64: Correct kvm_arm_pmu_get_max_counters() Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 11/23] KVM: arm64: Set up FGT for Partitioned PMU Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 12/23] KVM: arm64: Writethrough trapped PMEVTYPER register Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 13/23] KVM: arm64: Use physical PMSELR for PMXEVTYPER if partitioned Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 14/23] KVM: arm64: Writethrough trapped PMOVS register Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 15/23] KVM: arm64: Write fast path PMU register handlers Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 16/23] KVM: arm64: Setup MDCR_EL2 to handle a partitioned PMU Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 17/23] KVM: arm64: Account for partitioning in PMCR_EL0 access Colton Lewis
2025-06-22  9:32   ` kernel test robot
2025-06-23 22:11     ` Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 18/23] KVM: arm64: Context swap Partitioned PMU guest registers Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 19/23] KVM: arm64: Enforce PMU event filter at vcpu_load() Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 20/23] perf: arm_pmuv3: Handle IRQs for Partitioned PMU guest counters Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 20/23] perf: pmuv3: " Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 21/23] KVM: arm64: Inject recorded guest interrupts Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 22/23] KVM: arm64: Add ioctl to partition the PMU when supported Colton Lewis
2025-06-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2 23/23] KVM: arm64: selftests: Add test case for partitioned PMU Colton Lewis

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