From: Andreas Kemnade <andreas@kemnade.info>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: Josua Mayer <josua@solid-run.com>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/7] phy: can-transceiver: rename temporary helper function to avoid conflict
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2026 16:24:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260216162406.0121dd91@kemnade.info> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260216092914.kmvl7aep7dantcsd@skbuf>
On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 11:29:14 +0200
Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Josua,
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2026 at 08:19:27AM +0000, Josua Mayer wrote:
> > >> In the future, when you have a series with cross-tree dependencies,
> > >> please try to think of it as individual mini-series for each tree's
> > >> 'next' branch, and specify clearly that you need stable tags (to be
> > >> pulled into other trees).
> >
> > I don't really understand how I could split my series up to avoid this
> > issue.
> >
> > Due to the fact that one (and now two) drivers implemented local
> > mux helpers, to undo that an atomic change must be made tree-wide.
> >
> > Meanwhile it must be avoided that while the mux core helpers are being
> > tested / reviewed, that any tree adds another driver-local mux helper
> > like appears to have happened here.
> >
> > Note that my patch-set did go to linux-phy@lists.infradead.org list, too.
> >
> > The second challenge for this series was that mux framework is being
> > enabled only by drivers Kconfig "select" - and not possible by menuconfig.
> > This is e.g. responsible for being unable to test =m build with arm64
> > defconfig - and lead to it only being detected through kernel robot
> > x86_64 allmodconfig.
>
> To avoid this, a combination of developer due diligence + maintainer due
> diligence is probably required.
>
> From linux-phy perspective, there will be some automated build testing
> (which did not exist at the time of your submission). This would have
> caught the 'hidden' devm_mux_state_get_optional() call present only in
> linux-phy/next, when testing patch 2/7.
>
> But, to work, the build automation needs to be able to apply the entire
> patch set on linux-phy/next. So expect some pushback if it doesn't
> (hence the recommendation to send a mini-series to linux-phy first, and
> request a stable tag).
>
I do not think that is at all the duty of the patch submitter. I think as
long as every dependencies and side effects are documented, it is IMHO up to the
maintainers to decide how it can be merged best. They know best whether there
is any danger of conflicts in their working tree because that is an area
where people are working on. Especially this patchset is around for months.
In MFD where it is
more common practice to have cross-subsystem patchsets, once acks from
everyone are there, MFD Maintainer creates an immutable branch with a tag.
The maintainers of the affected subsystems pull it in.
Regards,
Andreas
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-16 15:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-08 15:38 [PATCH v9 0/7] mmc: host: renesas_sdhi_core: support configuring an optional sdio mux Josua Mayer
2026-02-08 15:38 ` [PATCH v9 1/7] phy: can-transceiver: rename temporary helper function to avoid conflict Josua Mayer
2026-02-12 16:48 ` Vladimir Oltean
2026-02-12 16:53 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-16 8:19 ` Josua Mayer
2026-02-16 9:29 ` Vladimir Oltean
2026-02-16 10:01 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-16 15:24 ` Andreas Kemnade [this message]
2026-02-23 12:43 ` Josua Mayer
2026-02-23 13:12 ` Vladimir Oltean
2026-02-23 13:44 ` Ulf Hansson
2026-02-08 15:38 ` [PATCH v9 2/7] mux: Add helper functions for getting optional and selected mux-state Josua Mayer
2026-02-08 15:38 ` [PATCH v9 3/7] mux: add help text for MULTIPLEXER config option Josua Mayer
2026-02-09 8:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-09 11:10 ` Peter Rosin
2026-02-09 11:31 ` Josua Mayer
2026-02-09 11:43 ` Peter Rosin
2026-02-09 12:07 ` Josua Mayer
2026-02-09 13:08 ` Peter Rosin
2026-02-09 20:02 ` Josua Mayer
2026-02-10 14:42 ` Peter Rosin
2026-02-10 7:50 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-10 14:45 ` Peter Rosin
2026-02-08 15:38 ` [PATCH v9 4/7] phy: can-transceiver: drop temporary helper getting optional mux-state Josua Mayer
2026-02-08 15:39 ` [PATCH v9 5/7] i2c: omap: switch to new generic helper for getting selected mux-state Josua Mayer
2026-02-08 15:39 ` [PATCH v9 6/7] dt-bindings: mmc: renesas,sdhi: Add mux-states property Josua Mayer
2026-02-08 15:39 ` [PATCH v9 7/7] mmc: host: renesas_sdhi_core: support selecting an optional mux Josua Mayer
2026-02-09 2:12 ` kernel test robot
2026-02-09 9:57 ` [PATCH v9 0/7] mmc: host: renesas_sdhi_core: support configuring an optional sdio mux Ulf Hansson
2026-02-09 10:21 ` Josua Mayer
2026-02-09 13:16 ` Peter Rosin
2026-02-09 13:39 ` Ulf Hansson
2026-02-09 13:50 ` Peter Rosin
2026-02-09 16:48 ` Ulf Hansson
2026-02-09 16:49 ` Ulf Hansson
2026-02-09 18:42 ` Josua Mayer
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