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X-BeenThere: linux-phy@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux Phy Mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-phy" Errors-To: linux-phy-bounces+linux-phy=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org Am 16.02.26 um 16:24 schrieb Andreas Kemnade: > On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 11:29:14 +0200 > Vladimir Oltean wrote: > >> Hi Josua, >> >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2026 at 08:19:27AM +0000, Josua Mayer wrote: >>>>> In the future, when you have a series with cross-tree dependencies, >>>>> please try to think of it as individual mini-series for each tree's >>>>> 'next' branch, and specify clearly that you need stable tags (to be >>>>> pulled into other trees). >>> I don't really understand how I could split my series up to avoid this >>> issue. >>> >>> Due to the fact that one (and now two) drivers implemented local >>> mux helpers, to undo that an atomic change must be made tree-wide. >>> >>> Meanwhile it must be avoided that while the mux core helpers are being >>> tested / reviewed, that any tree adds another driver-local mux helper >>> like appears to have happened here. >>> >>> Note that my patch-set did go to linux-phy@lists.infradead.org list, too. >>> >>> The second challenge for this series was that mux framework is being >>> enabled only by drivers Kconfig "select" - and not possible by menuconfig. >>> This is e.g. responsible for being unable to test =m build with arm64 >>> defconfig - and lead to it only being detected through kernel robot >>> x86_64 allmodconfig. >> To avoid this, a combination of developer due diligence + maintainer due >> diligence is probably required. >> >> From linux-phy perspective, there will be some automated build testing >> (which did not exist at the time of your submission). This would have >> caught the 'hidden' devm_mux_state_get_optional() call present only in >> linux-phy/next, when testing patch 2/7. Excellent! >> >> But, to work, the build automation needs to be able to apply the entire >> patch set on linux-phy/next. So expect some pushback if it doesn't >> (hence the recommendation to send a mini-series to linux-phy first, and >> request a stable tag). It would help immensely if there was a way to get the patches renaming driver-local conflicting helper-functions very early, before anything else. Would this sort of patch be acceptable in linux-next now, so it can make it into v7.0-rc1? If not then that mini-patchset would be the first one I shall submit after v7.0-rc1 is released. Then I can treat the actual implementation of the devm_mux_* helpers as a second standalone patch-set. And finally patching all drivers with local helpers to use the new global ones can be patch-set number 3. Any opinions on this? > I do not think that is at all the duty of the patch submitter. I think as > long as every dependencies and side effects are documented, it is IMHO up to the > maintainers to decide how it can be merged best. They know best whether there > is any danger of conflicts in their working tree because that is an area > where people are working on. Especially this patchset is around for months. > > In MFD where it is > more common practice to have cross-subsystem patchsets, once acks from > everyone are there, MFD Maintainer creates an immutable branch with a tag. > The maintainers of the affected subsystems pull it in. This seems like an option, if I can get the patch-set (or a partial one) ready early in the cycle. > > Regards, > Andreas > -- linux-phy mailing list linux-phy@lists.infradead.org https://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-phy