From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DC93C7618D for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 11:14:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post: List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:References: Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: List-Owner; bh=KLTZjm8f1yNFd6gsD4B1K4/KT+C3GD1Omx8auhJjh+g=; b=Sd+M8KZECkaIk7 kAnlONSh9Ti1V0d1vMz/1zEUU0TgostrheglNty/pcBsLosqmhm/+GxUpFhynk21McHCpa62Ynero QnDgv8sFXOjjCTh+KrZ47vkZNc9kSwAo8Bzwn0jjECyqpoah4E7p6+8V+xTtYt/gfai5RDDvMSnQG 6z0GSLP6oCXSWCSAv3M3rBVgL2YeKH50o80oVInIHrVdYtBEWA+czdD9uaki2i3/rG4wIqGedVUO8 Db3ax8BUJq6To5ZY058oZLoiC6ybIAYHO8QDin/9q2Gre7i4o7ZzXAqURBOQd327tIdsd4r7Zmm/Q AsbITlwQ7y97YLARSGOQ==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1peZwy-00C9vV-2U; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 11:14:44 +0000 Received: from pandora.armlinux.org.uk ([2001:4d48:ad52:32c8:5054:ff:fe00:142]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.96 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1peZwv-00C9ta-1C for linux-phy@lists.infradead.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 11:14:43 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=armlinux.org.uk; s=pandora-2019; h=Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=h7qXc+1aUFElkMSM91nEtKXu81XN+Wf79m4It5ZDBKw=; b=CyDe9t+sVOvK634r9Puu4qv7Tr Ovj0TAOGTUpoKFToWqG4+NPCKSvoEhRDyP69OUfOz0VzdqjnrOiyHZCrz3aQrySDxCqb/1a228oEq nZXa1tj0tcBupnyAq5zoAPqrUcqdVRxC75ISxNKA8Ggm05IjXYSuFnn1pRhMu971AiRNMPlTTAR7J xFGXcziwSsMUnBKXRQ7bVHBnEchFcfmUoqaD4KFX4It3vH1JWHEiByTrpn4YKJ/0W3HqGGGc6x0Id vT+U8Qa7tA83tkCiQBDFvvOdRN/69noCxit8ddctZnzokmhZQ3dZwvFfMSS0uOSwIMvVuLh6J3wyf kI1GDoIA==; Received: from shell.armlinux.org.uk ([fd8f:7570:feb6:1:5054:ff:fe00:4ec]:41428) by pandora.armlinux.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1peZwm-0000xL-KC; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 11:14:32 +0000 Received: from linux by shell.armlinux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1peZwk-0007gb-5R; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 11:14:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 11:14:30 +0000 From: "Russell King (Oracle)" To: Lee Jones Cc: Vinod Koul , Colin Foster , linux-phy@lists.infradead.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kishon Vijay Abraham I , Paolo Abeni , Jakub Kicinski , Eric Dumazet , "David S. Miller" , Florian Fainelli , Andrew Lunn , UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com, Alexandre Belloni , Claudiu Manoil , Vladimir Oltean Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next 1/9] phy: phy-ocelot-serdes: add ability to be used in a non-syscon configuration Message-ID: References: <20230317185415.2000564-2-colin.foster@in-advantage.com> <20230320133431.GB2673958@google.com> <20230320164136.GC2673958@google.com> <20230321082658.GD2673958@google.com> <20230321110851.GE2673958@google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230321110851.GE2673958@google.com> X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20230321_041441_452871_F9DA7493 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 32.53 ) X-BeenThere: linux-phy@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux Phy Mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-phy" Errors-To: linux-phy-bounces+linux-phy=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:08:51AM +0000, Lee Jones wrote: > On Tue, 21 Mar 2023, Russell King (Oracle) wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 08:26:58AM +0000, Lee Jones wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Mar 2023, Russell King (Oracle) wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 04:41:36PM +0000, Lee Jones wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 20 Mar 2023, Russell King (Oracle) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 01:34:31PM +0000, Lee Jones wrote: > > > > > > > Once again netdev seems to have applied patches from other subsystems > > > > > > > without review/ack. What makes netdev different to any other kernel > > > > > > > subsystem? What would happen if other random maintainers started > > > > > > > applying netdev patches without appropriate review? I suspect someone > > > > > > > would become understandably grumpy. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why again are you addressing your whinge to me? I'm not one of the > > > > > > netdev maintainers, but I've pointed out what happens in netdev > > > > > > land. However, you seem to *not* want to discuss it directly with > > > > > > DaveM/Jakub/Paolo - as illustrated again with yet another response > > > > > > to *me* rather than addressing your concerns *to* the people who > > > > > > you have an issue with. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not communication. Effectively, this is sniping, because > > > > > > rather than discussing it with the individuals concerned, you are > > > > > > instead preferring to discuss it with others. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please stop this. > > > > > > > > > > Read the above paragraph again. > > > > > > > > You sent your email _TO_ me, that means you addressed your comments > > > > primarily _to_ me. RFC2822: > > > > > > > > The "To:" field contains the address(es) of the primary recipient(s) > > > > of the message. > > > > > > > > The "Cc:" field (where the "Cc" means "Carbon Copy" in the sense of > > > > making a copy on a typewriter using carbon paper) contains the > > > > addresses of others who are to receive the message, though the > > > > content of the message may not be directed at them. > > > > > > You're over-thinking it. I replied to all. > > > > I've been thinking about this entire situation and there's something > > that summarises it. Kettle. Pot. Black. > > > > You complain about how netdev is run, but you also complain about how > > people interpret your emails. > > > > Sorry, but no. I think you need to be more accomodating towards how > > others perceive your emails, especially when there are widespread > > accepted conventions. The fact that you are seemingly not even willing > > to entertain that someone _might_ interpret your emails according to > > standard normals is frankly a problem for you. > > This conversion has gone completely off-track. > > If you wish to continue talking about email headers offline (instead of > filling people's inboxes with unrelated ramblings), you know where to > find me. I would prefer not to. I would much prefer it that if _you_ have a problem with how netdev operates, that _you_ talk directly _to_ the netdev maintainers, rather than latching on to one of my emails and replying to it. That is a reasonable request that _you_ appear to be completely immune to comprehending, instead wishing to effectively tell me that I'm wrong to request that - and start this idiotic thread to debate it. -- RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last! -- linux-phy mailing list linux-phy@lists.infradead.org https://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-phy