From: "Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
To: "'Rafael J. Wysocki'" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: 'Peter Zijlstra' <peterz@infradead.org>,
'Srinivas Pandruvada' <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
'Viresh Kumar' <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
'Linux Kernel Mailing List' <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
'Steve Muckle' <steve.muckle@linaro.org>,
'Juri Lelli' <juri.lelli@arm.com>,
'Ingo Molnar' <mingo@kernel.org>,
'Linux PM list' <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [RFC][PATCH 7/7] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Change P-state selection algorithm for Core
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 10:16:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <000801d1f261$d69fc740$83df55c0$@net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10156236.RI1knH5Wfs@vostro.rjw.lan>
On 2016.08.05 17:02 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On 2016.08.03 21:19 Doug Smythies wrote:
>> On 2016.07.31 16:49 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>
>>
>>> +static inline int32_t get_target_pstate_default(struct cpudata *cpu)
>>> +{
>>> + struct sample *sample = &cpu->sample;
>>> + int32_t busy_frac;
>>> + int pstate;
>>> +
>>> + busy_frac = div_fp(sample->mperf, sample->tsc);
>>> + sample->busy_scaled = busy_frac * 100;
>>> +
>>> + if (busy_frac < cpu->iowait_boost)
>>> + busy_frac = cpu->iowait_boost;
>>> +
>>> + cpu->iowait_boost >>= 1;
>>> +
>>> + pstate = cpu->pstate.turbo_pstate;
>>> + return fp_toint((pstate + (pstate >> 2)) * busy_frac);
>>> +}
>>> +
>>
>> The response curve is not normalized on the lower end to the minimum
>> pstate for the processor, meaning the overall response will vary
>> between processors as a function of minimum pstate.
> But that's OK IMO.
>
> Mapping busy_frac = 0 to the minimum P-state would over-provision workloads
> with small values of busy_frac.
Agreed, mapping busy_frac = 0 to the minimum Pstate would be a bad thing to do.
However, that is not what I meant. I meant that the mapping of busy-frac = N to
the minimum pstate for the processor should give the same "N" (within granularity),
regardless of the processor.
Example, my processor, i7-2600K: max pstate = 38; min pstate = 16.
Load before going to pstate, 17: 17 = (38 + 38/4) * load
Load = N = 35.8 %
Example, something like, i5-3337U (I think, I don't actually have one):
max pstate = 27; min pstate = 8.
Load before going to pstate, 9: 9 = (27 + 27/4) * load
Load = N = 26.7 %
It was a couple of years ago, so I should re-do the sensitivity
analysis/testing, but I concluded that the performance / energy tradeoff
was somewhat sensitive to "N".
I am suggesting that the response curve, or transfer function,
needs to be normalized, for any processor, to:
Max pstate | __________
| /
| /
| /
| /
| /
Min pstate| _______/
|__________________________
| | | |
0% N M 100%
CPU load
Currently M ~= 80%
One time (not re-based since kernel 4.3) I did have a proposed solution [1],
but it was expensive in terms of extra multiplies and divides.
[1]: http://marc.info/?l=linux-pm&m=142881187323474&w=2
>> The clamping at maximum pstate at about 80% load seems at little high
>> to me. Work I have done in various attempts to bring back the use of actual load
>> has always ended up achieving maximum pstate before 80% load for best results.
>> Even the get_target_pstate_cpu_load people reach the max pstate faster, and they
>> are more about energy than performance.
>> What was the criteria for the decision here? Are test results available for review
>> and/or duplication by others?
> This follows the coefficient used by the schedutil governor, but then the
> metric is different, so quite possibly a different value may work better here.
>
> We'll test other values before applying this for sure. :-)
I am now testing this change to the code (for M ~= 67%; N ~= 30% (my CPU); N ~= 22% (i5-3337U)):
diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
index 8b2bdb7..909d441 100644
--- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
+++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
@@ -1313,7 +1313,7 @@ static inline int32_t get_target_pstate_default(struct cpudata *cpu)
cpu->iowait_boost >>= 1;
pstate = cpu->pstate.turbo_pstate;
- return fp_toint((pstate + (pstate >> 2)) * busy_frac);
+ return fp_toint((pstate + (pstate >> 1)) * busy_frac);
}
static inline void intel_pstate_update_pstate(struct cpudata *cpu, int pstate)
>
> Several tests were done with this patch set.
...[cut]...
>> Questions:
>> Is there a migration plan?
>
> Not yet. We have quite a lot of testing to do first.
>
>> i.e. will there be an attempt to merge the current cpu_load method
>> and this method into one method?
>
> Quite possibly if the results are good enough.
>
>> Then possibly the PID controller could be eliminated.
>
> Right.
I think this change is important, and I'll help with it as best as I can.
... Doug
A related CPU frequency Vs. Load graph will be sent to Rafael and Srinivas off-list.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-09 17:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-31 23:31 [RFC][PATCH 0/7] cpufreq / sched: cpufreq_update_util() flags and iowait boosting Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-31 23:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/7] cpufreq / sched: Make schedutil access utilization data directly Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-01 19:28 ` Steve Muckle
2016-08-01 23:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-02 10:38 ` Juri Lelli
2016-08-02 14:28 ` Steve Muckle
2016-08-02 14:43 ` Juri Lelli
2016-08-08 10:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-31 23:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/7] cpufreq / sched: Drop cpufreq_trigger_update() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-31 23:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/7] cpufreq / sched: Check cpu_of(rq) in cpufreq_update_util() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-01 7:29 ` Dominik Brodowski
2016-08-01 14:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-01 19:48 ` Steve Muckle
2016-08-01 23:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-31 23:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/7] cpufreq / sched: Add flags argument to cpufreq_update_util() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-01 7:33 ` Dominik Brodowski
2016-08-01 14:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-01 19:59 ` Steve Muckle
2016-08-01 23:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-02 1:36 ` Steve Muckle
2016-07-31 23:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/7] cpufreq / sched: UUF_IO flag to indicate iowait condition Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-02 1:22 ` Steve Muckle
2016-08-02 1:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-02 22:02 ` Steve Muckle
2016-08-02 22:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-04 2:24 ` Steve Muckle
2016-08-04 21:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-04 22:09 ` Steve Muckle
2016-08-05 23:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-31 23:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/7] cpufreq: schedutil: Add iowait boosting Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-02 1:35 ` Steve Muckle
2016-08-02 23:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-31 23:38 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Change P-state selection algorithm for Core Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-04 4:18 ` Doug Smythies
2016-08-04 6:53 ` Doug Smythies
2016-08-06 0:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-09 17:16 ` Doug Smythies [this message]
2016-08-13 15:59 ` Doug Smythies
2016-08-19 14:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-20 1:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-20 6:40 ` Doug Smythies
2016-08-22 18:53 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-08-22 22:53 ` Doug Smythies
2016-08-23 3:48 ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-23 4:08 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-08-23 4:50 ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-23 17:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-01 15:26 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/7] cpufreq / sched: cpufreq_update_util() flags and iowait boosting Doug Smythies
2016-08-01 16:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-08 11:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-08 13:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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