From: "Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
To: "'Rafael J. Wysocki'" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"'Jing Wu'" <realwujing@gmail.com>
Cc: "'Srinivas Pandruvada'" <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
"'Viresh Kumar'" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
"'Rafael J. Wysocki'" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v1] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Adjust policy->cur in active mode to policy
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2026 16:29:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <000d01dd1fb2$1da56040$58f020c0$@telus.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5144014.31r3eYUQgx@rafael.j.wysocki>
Hi All,
On 2026.07.29 11:40 Rafael wrote:
>On Wednesday, July 29, 2026 10:59:24 AM CEST Jing Wu wrote:
>> When cpu->policy is CPUFREQ_POLICY_PERFORMANCE, intel_pstate_set_policy()
>> pins the CPU to a fixed pstate (max(min_pstate, max_perf_ratio)) and
>> programs it directly, precisely because, per the existing comment,
>> "NOHZ_FULL CPUs need this as the governor callback may not be invoked
>> on them". Two lines later it still unconditionally clobbers policy->cur
>> down to policy->min, discarding the pinned value it just computed and
>> applied.
>>
>> arch_freq_get_on_cpu() falls back to cpufreq_quick_get(), i.e.
>> policy->cur, whenever its APERF/MPERF sample goes stale. A CPU whose
>> tick keeps running refreshes that sample constantly and rarely hits
>> the fallback, but an isolated CPU covered by nohz_full with a single
>> runnable task never gets another tick, so it permanently reports the
>> floor through this fallback - even though it is genuinely pinned to,
>> and running at, the frequency computed just above.
>>
>> Set policy->cur to the exact pinned frequency (pstate * scaling) in
>> the CPUFREQ_POLICY_PERFORMANCE branch instead, and only fall back to
>> policy->min for the general case, where the frequency genuinely isn't
>> known without a fresh sample.
>>
>> Fixes: d51847acb018 ("cpufreq: intel_pstate: set stale CPU frequency to minimum")
>> Co-developed-by: Qiliang Yuan <yuanql9@chinatelecom.cn>
>> Signed-off-by: Qiliang Yuan <yuanql9@chinatelecom.cn>
>> Signed-off-by: Jing Wu <realwujing@gmail.com>
>> ---
>> drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c | 20 +++++++++++++++-----
>> 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>> index 5a0eeb84d3821..b2c60c4931dcd 100644
>> --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>> +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>> @@ -2908,8 +2908,23 @@ static int intel_pstate_set_policy(struct cpufreq_policy *policy)
>> */
>> intel_pstate_clear_update_util_hook(policy->cpu);
>> intel_pstate_set_pstate(cpu, pstate);
>> +
>> + /*
>> + * Report the exact pinned frequency instead of the floor:
>> + * the CPU is pinned to pstate here and nothing else changes
>> + * it, unlike the general case below.
>> + */
>> + policy->cur = pstate * cpu->pstate.scaling;
>> } else {
>> intel_pstate_set_update_util_hook(policy->cpu);
>> +
>> + /*
>> + * Keep policy->cur within limits here: outside of the pinned
>> + * CPUFREQ_POLICY_PERFORMANCE case above, it is never updated
>> + * by the intel_pstate driver, but it is used as a stale
>> + * frequency value.
>> + */
>> + policy->cur = policy->min;
>> }
>>
>> if (hwp_active) {
>> @@ -2922,11 +2937,6 @@ static int intel_pstate_set_policy(struct cpufreq_policy *policy)
>> intel_pstate_clear_update_util_hook(policy->cpu);
>> intel_pstate_hwp_set(policy->cpu);
>> }
>> - /*
>> - * policy->cur is never updated with the intel_pstate driver, but it
>> - * is used as a stale frequency value. So, keep it within limits.
>> - */
>> - policy->cur = policy->min;
>>
>> mutex_unlock(&intel_pstate_limits_lock);
>>
>>
>> ---
>
> Good idea overall, but it takes a bit more to do this. In particular, the HWP
> case needs some more care.
>
> Also, I don't think that this really is a fix. The code works as intended,
> although what it does is sometimes confusing.
Yes, and by agreement at the time (or so I think I recall) we
were trying to get all CPU frequency scaling drivers and governors to
display the same thing when the frequency was stale.
We wanted to: 1, make it more obvious that the frequency was stale;
2, keep the listed stale frequency within the currently set limits.
The drivers were intel_pstate (with both HWP enabled and disabled),
intel_cpufreq (with both HWP enabled and disabled), and acpi-cpufreq.
We decided on the currently set minimum CPU frequency.
There was a problem with driver = intel_cpufreq, governor = schedutil,
HWP enabled, where it would might not show the current minimum
frequency as the stale frequency, that remains to this day.
(i.e. I have never figured out a fix after my initial attempt was rejected, [1])
> Below is my version of this change (on top of linux-next), please let me know
> if it works for you.
>
> Thanks!
I was part way through looking at and testing Jing's version of the patch.
I'll abandon that and try yours.
... deleted the rest ...
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/CAAYoRsU2=qOUhBKSRskcoRXSgBudWgDNVvKtJA+c22cPa8EZ1Q@mail.gmail.com/
... Doug
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-29 23:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-29 8:59 [PATCH] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Sync policy->cur to the pinned pstate Jing Wu
2026-07-29 18:40 ` [PATCH v1] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Adjust policy->cur in active mode to policy Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-07-29 23:29 ` Doug Smythies [this message]
2026-07-30 15:01 ` Doug Smythies
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