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From: "Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
To: 'Thomas Ilsche' <thomas.ilsche@tu-dresden.de>
Cc: 'Linux PM' <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	'Frederic Weisbecker' <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	'Thomas Gleixner' <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	'Paul McKenney' <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	'Rik van Riel' <riel@surriel.com>,
	'Aubrey Li' <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>,
	'Mike Galbraith' <mgalbraith@suse.de>,
	'LKML' <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	'Peter Zijlstra' <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"'Rafael J. Wysocki'" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Doug Smythies <dsmythies@telus.net>
Subject: RE: [RFT][PATCH v5 0/7] sched/cpuidle: Idle loop rework
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 14:03:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <002d01d3c08e$f43aa750$dcaff5f0$@net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: yINUePngOpApsyKrGeyZxD

Summary: My results with kernel 4.16-rc6 and V8 of the patch set
are completely different, and now show no clear difference
(a longer test might reveal something). 

On 2018.03.20 10:16 Doug Smythies wrote:
> On 2018.03.20 03:02 Thomas Ilsche wrote:
>
>...[snip]...
>
>> Consider the Skylake server system which has residencies in C1E of
>> 20 us and C6 of 800 us. I use a small while(1) {usleep(300);}
>> unsynchronized pinned to each core. While this is an artificial
>> case, it is a very innocent one - easy to predict and regular. Between
>> vanilla 4.16.0-rc5 and idle-loop/v6, the power consumption increases
>> from 149.7 W to 158.1 W. On 4.16.0-rc5, the cores sleep almost
>> entirely in C1E. With the patches applied, the cores spend ~75% of
>> their sleep time in C6, ~25% in C1E. The average time/usage for C1E is
>> also lower with v6 at ~350 us rather than the ~550 us in C6 (and in
>> C1E with the baseline). Generally the new menu governor seems to chose
>> C1E if the next timer is an enabled sched timer - which occasionally
>> interrupts the sleep-interval into two C1E sleeps rather than one C6.
>>
>> Manually disabling C6, reduces power consumption back to 149.5 W.
>
> ...[snip]...
>
> Note that one of the tests that I normally do is a work/sleep
> frequency sweep from 100 to 2100 Hz, typically at a lowish
> workload. I didn't notice anything odd with this test:
> 
> http://fast.smythies.com/rjw_freq_sweep.png
>
> However, your test is at 3333 Hz (well, minus overheads).
> I did the same as you. And was surprised to confirm
> your power findings. In my case package power goes from
> ~8.6 watts to ~7.3 watts with idle state 4 (C6) disabled.
>
> I am getting different residency times than you though.
> I also observe different overheads between idle state 4
> being disabled or not. i.e. my actual loop frequency
> drops from ~2801 Hz to ~2754 Hz.
>
> Example residencies over the previous minute:
>
> Idle state 4 (C6) disabled (seconds):
>
> Idle state 0: 0.001119
> Idle state 1: 0.056638
> Idle state 2: 13.100550
> Idle state 3: 446.266744
> Idle state 4: 0.000000
>
> Idle state 4 (C6) enabled (seconds):
>
> Idle state 0: 0.034502
> Idle state 1: 1.949595
> Idle state 2: 78.291793
> Idle state 3: 96.467974
> Idle state 4: 286.247524

Now, with kernel 4.16-rc6 and V8 of the patch set and the poll fix
I am unable to measure the processor package power difference
between idle state 0 enabled or disabled (i.e. it is in the noise).
also the loop time changes (overhead changes) are minimal. However,
the overall loop time has dropped to ~2730 Hz, so there seems to be
a little more overhead in general.

I increased my loop frequency to ~3316 Hz. Similar.

I increased my loop frequency to ~15474 Hz. Similar.
Compared to a stock 4.16-rc6 kernel: The loop rate dropped
to 15,209 Hz and it (the stock kernel) used about 0.3 more
watts (out of 10.97, or ~3% more).

... Doug

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-20 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-15 21:59 [RFT][PATCH v5 0/7] sched/cpuidle: Idle loop rework Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-15 22:03 ` [RFT][PATCH v5 1/7] time: tick-sched: Reorganize idle tick management code Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-15 22:05 ` [RFT][PATCH v5 2/7] sched: idle: Do not stop the tick upfront in the idle loop Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-15 22:07 ` [RFT][PATCH v5 3/7] sched: idle: Do not stop the tick before cpuidle_idle_call() Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-15 22:11 ` [RFT][PATCH v5 4/7] cpuidle: Return nohz hint from cpuidle_select() Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-19  9:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-19  9:39     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-15 22:13 ` [RFT][PATCH v5 5/7] sched: idle: Select idle state before stopping the tick Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-15 22:16 ` [RFT][PATCH v5 6/7] cpuidle: menu: Refine idle state selection for running tick Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-19  9:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-19  9:49     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-15 22:19 ` [RFT][PATCH v5 7/7] cpuidle: menu: Avoid selecting shallow states with stopped tick Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-19 12:47   ` Thomas Ilsche
2018-03-19 18:21   ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-20 17:15   ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-20 17:28     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-17 12:42 ` [RFT][PATCH v5 0/7] sched/cpuidle: Idle loop rework Thomas Ilsche
2018-03-17 16:11 ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-18 11:00   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-18 16:15     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-19 10:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-19 11:36         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-19 11:58           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-19 12:31           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-20 10:01       ` Thomas Ilsche
2018-03-20 10:49         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-20 17:15       ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-20 21:03       ` Doug Smythies [this message]
2018-03-21  6:33         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-21 13:51         ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-21 13:58           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-18 15:30   ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-18 16:06     ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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