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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
To: Patrick Mochel
	<mochel-og82NyAXoxR0I81aPRRTmR2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: RE: Ottawa
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:54:55 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1110585295.5752.126.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.50.0503111258490.19793-100000-x8k/2hhmB0w5etPau2IXcQ@public.gmane.org>

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On Fri, 2005-03-11 at 13:06 -0800, Patrick Mochel wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> 
> > I totally agree. I think we badly need a PM workshop of some sort,
> > either before or after KS/OLS, if possible at the same place, with a
> > least a couple of days so we have time to 1) expose all the issues, 2)
> > get over the usual misunderstanding, 3) agree on a set of solutions.
> 
> I totally agree. So, how do we do it?

You could try to contact usenix maybe ? Or talk to Ted ?

> Doing it before KS would be the best, IMO. How long do we want, 1 day? 2
> days? If we take 1 day, we could do it on Sunday, which would require
> everyone show up by Saturday (earlier for more recovery time). That would
> give us a good 6-14 hours of talk time, with plenty of breaks for food,
> beer, sanity, etc.

1 day may not be enough, but we could do one day + a BOF ...

> The other thing we need is a venue. Unless we magically got some sort of
> sponsorship, and someone stepped forward to organize a location, we need
> something for free. What I suggest is that someone get a 'Business Suite'
> at Les Suites and we have it there.

Ok... Well, afaik, I'll have to go to some random IBM approved hotel,
but I'm not sure at this point.

> I had one of those rooms 2 years ago, and it included a kitchen, dining
> room w/ table/living room w/ couch, an office attached to that. The
> bedroom was separate. It was larger than some apartments I've lived in. It
> could comfortably seat at least 6-8 people, and we'd have lots of room for
> laptops, etc.
> 
> On that note, no matter where we have it, I'd like to limit it to 6-8
> people, with at most maybe 10. I don't wish to exclude anyone, but I think
> that smaller groups can remain more focused. Plus, there's all those
> sociological studies that say 6-7 people is the optimal size for a
> discussion group. :)

Us, Nigel, David Brownell, Alan, Pavel, Brown, we are already 7... ?

Ben.



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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <F7DC2337C7631D4386A2DF6E8FB22B3002F2271A@hdsmsx401.amr.corp.intel.com>
     [not found] ` <1110542934.5810.94.camel@gaston>
2005-03-11 21:06   ` Ottawa Patrick Mochel
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.50.0503111258490.19793-100000-x8k/2hhmB0w5etPau2IXcQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-11 21:34       ` Ottawa Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]         ` <1110576855.32510.20.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPX/uOuaPYTxhvJwvTLr3MMZM@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-11 21:44           ` Ottawa Patrick Mochel
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.50.0503111342310.19793-100000-x8k/2hhmB0w5etPau2IXcQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-12  5:48               ` Ottawa Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                 ` <1110606524.32510.30.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPX/uOuaPYTxhvJwvTLr3MMZM@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-14 18:05                   ` Ottawa Patrick Mochel
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.50.0503141000050.13647-100000-x8k/2hhmB0w5etPau2IXcQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-14 20:30                       ` Ottawa Nigel Cunningham
2005-03-11 23:54       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2005-03-12  0:08         ` Ottawa Jordan Crouse
     [not found]           ` <20050311170827.07daf488-aftB2sG12IhaqnLngUycEA@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-12  0:29             ` Ottawa Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-12  1:08               ` Ottawa Adam Belay
     [not found]                 ` <1110589712.12485.262.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-14  4:28                   ` Ottawa David Brownell
     [not found]                     ` <200503132028.49339.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-14  5:07                       ` Ottawa Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 21:50                         ` Ottawa [topics] David Brownell
     [not found]                           ` <200503161350.02426.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-16 23:40                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-17 17:26                               ` David Brownell
2005-03-17  4:11                             ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0503162259320.7210-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-17  4:44                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                                   ` <1111034693.3240.92.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPX/uOuaPYTxhvJwvTLr3MMZM@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-17  5:58                                     ` David Brownell
2005-03-17  8:52                                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-17 14:55                                     ` Alan Stern
2005-03-18 20:16         ` Ottawa Patrick Mochel
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.50.0503181214400.16627-100000-x8k/2hhmB0w5etPau2IXcQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-19  6:13             ` Ottawa Greg KH
2005-03-11 23:05 Ottawa Brown, Len
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2005-03-11 21:25 Ottawa Brown, Len
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.50.0503090627400.9502-100000@monsoon.he.net>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.50.0503090627400.9502-100000-x8k/2hhmB0w5etPau2IXcQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-11 20:42   ` Ottawa Nigel Cunningham

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