Re: So, what's the status on the recent patches here?

Pavel Machek
2006-08-30T22:27:22Z

On Wed 2006-08-30 15:13:54, Mark Gross wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:39:57PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Mon 2006-08-28 09:40:38, Mark Gross wrote:
> > > On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 03:46:53PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > On Sat 2006-08-26 17:30:40, Vitaly Wool wrote:
> > > > > On 8/26/06, Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz> wrote:
> > > > Because 8388608 policies is clearly not reasonable, powerop can not
> > > > help here, and something better should be developed... like power
> > > > domains someone proposed here.
> > > >
> > > > (Or to say it in another words, powerop forces one big power domain,
> > > > which is bad model for notebook-style machine).
> > >
> > > I doubt notebook-style machines will ever us power op in any
> > > significant way. HPC and embedded will be the first users.
> >
> > I agree here... power op look useless for notebooks. But I doubt power
> > op authors would agree...
>
> Concluding that it will be useless for notebooks may be premature.
>
> I see powerop as the bottom of an future PM stack. As the upper layers
> take shape who knows what platforms will use it?

Well, PCs are generaly designed in a way where individual devices are
separate, and that means that we do not have linked-parameters-problem
powerop tries to solve. But okay, perhaps someone created such
notebook in future...

> > > Power domains will likely build on top power op.
> > >
> > > Power domains adds complexities themselves. Dealing with
> > > dependencies and constraints between domains will be a challenge.
> >
> > Once we have power domains in/solved... do we still need power op? I
> > thought power op could be useful for solving constrains _inside_ one
> > domain, but...
>
> Power domains and the components within them will likely be accessed as
> operating points. I think we need to build the power domain
> abstractions on top of operating points. This is why I want to see
> support for multiple power_op_driver instances or a story for how
> operating points are added to a running system or even platform to
> enable and deal with domains.

Yes, multiple power_op_drivers -- one per power domain -- makes some
sense.

Pavel
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