From: Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Seyfried <seife@suse.de>
Cc: suspend-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-pm@osdl.org,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Dangers of touching disk between suspend and resume
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:17:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1164925067.6031.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061130201311.GK2227@suse.de>
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 03:00:43PM -0500, I wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 17:37 +0100, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
>
> > So it is a good idea to tell the engineer to do "mkswap" on the swap
> > partition before putting the disk into the replacement hardware.
>
> Ugh, no it's not. You really want the UUID on the swap area to remain
> the same.
In response, on Thu, 2006-11-30 at 21:13 +0100, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
> Well, but the system won't care because it won't resume?
> Or am i missing something?
And On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 15:42 -0500, Daniel Drake wrote:
> Why?
>
> [not questioning your reasoning, this is coming from someone who knows
> very little about swap structure and what the UUID is used for]
You want to get rid of the resume metadata from it, but you don't want
to create a new swap structure. Normally it's not a problem, but in
some environments, such as with shared-storage like in a SAN[1], we need
to be able to identify that a swap device is really the one we mean to
be activating; the UUID is one of the best pieces of data we've got. So
you don't want to start over with a new swap partition, you want to
clear the resume data only.
Granted, I think most distros, if not all, and all the standard tools
totally muck up swap on shared storage right now[0]. But that's no
reason to advocate such a bad habit. For FC/RHEL making this work right
is at least on my TODO list for the relatively near future.
[0] "swapon -a" activates everything it finds, and that's what most
distros do during boot. If you can see other machines' swap devices,
that's bad.
[1] If you hate that example, another with the same problem is when
you're running a virtual machine which has its own physical disk
partitions, i.e. vmware with /dev/sdb as its disk.
--
Peter
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-30 22:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-28 15:21 Dangers of touching disk between suspend and resume Daniel Drake
2006-11-28 15:43 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2006-11-28 16:37 ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-11-28 19:43 ` Daniel Drake
2006-11-30 20:00 ` Peter Jones
2006-11-30 20:13 ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-11-30 22:17 ` Peter Jones [this message]
2006-12-01 7:39 ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-12-02 4:41 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-12-04 8:10 ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-12-05 11:28 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-12-05 11:44 ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-12-05 11:51 ` Matt Sealey
2006-12-06 0:10 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-12-09 15:25 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-11-30 20:42 ` Daniel Drake
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