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From: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: linux-pm <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] dynamic device power management proposal
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:09:39 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1174532979.2208.3.camel@sli10-conroe.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070321213909.GB6057@elf.ucw.cz>

On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 05:39 +0800, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > int foo() //all service routines of the driver should do
> > > > {
> > > >             //wakeup the device if it???s suspended
> > > >             dpm_active_device();
> > >
> > > No, we do not want this kind of interface. It should be something
> like
> > > mod_timer(my_timer, HZ+10);
> > 1. the device might suspend already here, we should resume it.
> > 2. mod_timer is a bad idea. It's too heavy, if the routine is called
> > very frequently, mod_timer will be a big overload. That's why I use
> a
> > timestamp. Updating a timestamp hasn't any overload.
> 
> Heh, if mod_timer is bad idea, we'll fix mod_timer. Anyway, if you use
> timestamp, you'll have to add polling, and that means overhead even
> when idle.
No, we don't need poll the timestamp frequently (maybe 1 minute or 5
minute one time depends on your requirement)

> Anyway, we do not have to decide that at this point.
> 
> > > We can talk about generic device attribute "powerdown_timeout" in
> > > sysfs... but I'd prefer few more drivers that do powersave before
> we
> > > do that.
> > Using this you will have a timer in the driver, and the timer's
> callback
> > will suspend the device. This approach has some issues. 1. it's
> better
> > driver doesn't handle device dependence. This approach requires
> driver
> > handle dependence.
> 
> Why not?
This will make driver complex. Driver should be as simple as possible.

Thanks,
Shaohua

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-22  3:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-19  9:08 [RFC] dynamic device power management proposal Shaohua Li
2007-03-19 15:44 ` Alan Stern
2007-03-20  1:06   ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-20 14:58     ` Alan Stern
2007-03-21  1:43       ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-21 14:44         ` Alan Stern
2007-03-22  4:42   ` Len Brown
2007-03-22 11:56     ` Jim Gettys
2007-03-22 19:28       ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 13:20     ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 13:44       ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-22 13:56         ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 14:18           ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-22 14:22             ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 14:26               ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-22 14:35                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 19:41     ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 19:58   ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 18:30 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-21  1:34   ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-21 15:21     ` Amit Kucheria
2007-03-21 21:49       ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-21 22:54         ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-21 21:39     ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22  3:09       ` Shaohua Li [this message]
2007-03-22 13:13         ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 19:20       ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 20:32         ` Alan Stern
2007-03-22 20:02 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 22:10   ` Greg KH
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-21 20:19 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-21 21:45 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-26 13:53 ` Amit Kucheria
2007-03-22 13:39 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-22 13:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-22 14:01 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 14:45 ` Alan Stern
2007-03-22 18:53   ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 19:05 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-27 12:05 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-27 12:19   ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-22 19:18 Scott E. Preece

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