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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	linux-pm <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] pm_ops: add system quiesce/activate hooks
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:23:37 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1176377017.5764.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070412101653.GB26473@elf.ucw.cz>

On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 12:16 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:

> Adding platform hook to disable interrupts just because we need one
> platform device last is not nice, either. (And does decrementer even
> need to come last?)
> 
> Anyway, platform devices may need specific ordering on more than power
> pc, so perhaps we should just make ordering more stable so that
> relying on it is no longer a hack?

It would be pretty hard to do cleanly without raping the core driver
suspend/resume core.

I have experience implementing suspend/resume in all sorts of
environments, and I do strongly beleive that an arch hook right at this
point will be useful to more than that anyway.

There are actions the arch code might need to take after drivers and
before going to "atomic" mode (irqs off mean you can no longer sleep or
take semaphores etc...), and in a similar vein, actions to take on
resume just after interrupts are back and before all the drivers get
woken up.

The decrementer is one example, there might be other processor specific
bits or arch specific bits that are better done at that stage.

I think the way to go for 2.6.22 is to have that hook unless you can
propose me a way to cleanly provide a platform device that is guaranteed
to suspend last and resume first in all cases (and even then, I wouldn't
be that happy since the proper decrementer stop procedure involves
really wrapping the "irqs off" operation).

Why not give this added flexibility ? Archs who don't care don't need to
bother and it will make us happy... it's not like we are about to -add-
burden to other architectures.

Ben.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-12 11:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-05 21:54 [PATCH] pm_ops: add irq enable/disable hooks Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 23:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-05 23:28   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-06  0:02     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-06  0:09       ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-06  0:17         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-06  8:48           ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-06  9:41             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-06  9:44               ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-06 10:02                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-06 10:00                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-06 19:19                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-06 21:59                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-10 11:36                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-10 11:45                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-10 12:00                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-10 13:42                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-11 11:22                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-11 14:07                             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-11 16:39                               ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-11 21:40                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-11 11:15                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-06 19:16 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-11 15:54 ` [PATCH v2] pm_ops: add system quiesce/activate hooks Johannes Berg
2007-04-11 20:47   ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-04-12  8:39     ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-12  8:42     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-12 10:16       ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-12 10:45         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-12 10:47         ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-13 21:00           ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-13 21:11             ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-13 21:43               ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-13 21:11             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-13 21:15             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-12 11:23         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2007-04-12 15:03           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-12 16:32             ` David Brownell
2007-04-13  6:52               ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-13  7:59               ` [PATCH v3] " Johannes Berg
2007-04-12 17:36           ` [PATCH v2] " Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-04-12 20:51             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-13  6:54             ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-13  8:04               ` David Brownell
2007-04-13  8:59             ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-13  9:07               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-13 11:47                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-13 12:58                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-13 13:26                   ` [PATCH v4] " Johannes Berg
2007-04-13 20:43                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-13 20:58                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-13 21:06                         ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-13 21:12                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-13 21:18                             ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-13 21:33                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-13 21:45                                 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-13 21:52                                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-13 21:59                                     ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-13 22:18                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-13 22:20                                         ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-13 22:49                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-13 22:55                                             ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-13 22:09                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-13 22:13                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-13 22:16                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-14 16:55                                       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-13 22:25                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-13 22:39                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-13 23:19                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-14  9:14                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-14  9:19                                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-15  0:19                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-16  7:32                                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-16  8:37                                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-16 12:47                                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-17  4:58                                             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-18  7:50                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-13 22:47                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-13 21:18                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-13 21:56                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-13 22:01                                 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-13 22:24                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-13 21:15                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-13 21:50                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-13 22:23                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-14 22:10                               ` David Brownell
2007-04-13 21:05             ` [PATCH v2] " Pavel Machek
2007-04-12  8:44     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-17 17:18 ` [PATCH] s2ram: add arch irq disable/enable hooks Johannes Berg
2007-04-18 11:27   ` Pavel Machek

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