public inbox for linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: mjg59@srcf.ucam.org, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pavel@ucw.cz,
	johannes@sipsolutions.net, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:59:13 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1183712354.3388.126.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707060913.24131.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 09:13 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> The only reason (I know of) why we don't handle uninterruptible tasks in the
> freezer is that we're afraid of the suspend process deadlocking with an
> uninterruptible task holding a lock, but AFAICS the probability of such an
> event is extremely small.

What would deadlock specifically ? One of the drivers trying to acquire
that lock ? It would be a driver bug then.

> Also, the powermac suspend will deadlock in such cases, so the fact that
> it doesn't deadlock means that they don't occur very often (if at all).

Ben.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-06  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707051713440.2753-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-05 21:26 ` Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-05 21:37 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found] ` <200707052337.27066.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-06  7:13   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]   ` <200707060913.24131.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-06  8:59     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2007-07-06  9:31       ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]       ` <200707061131.08475.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-06  9:53         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-07  2:44         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-07 20:48           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]           ` <200707072248.06970.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-08  0:50             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]         ` <200707061153.05091.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-07  2:46           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707051014180.3728-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-05 22:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-06  7:20   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-06 15:13   ` Alan Stern
2007-07-07  7:56   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707061111050.3737-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-08  7:19     ` Paul Mackerras
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707051704580.2557-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-05 21:15 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found] ` <200707052315.38770.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-05 21:31   ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found] <E1I6YXX-0001yE-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
2007-07-05 21:15 ` Alan Stern
     [not found] <18059.6726.218205.104212@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2007-07-04 15:12 ` Alan Stern
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707041104140.25704-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2007-07-05  0:35   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-07-05 14:42     ` Alan Stern
     [not found] <18059.7151.841436.329553@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2007-07-04 15:04 ` Alan Stern
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707041057230.25704-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2007-07-05  0:28   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-07-03 19:32 Oliver Neukum
2007-07-03 20:02 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-03 20:19   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-03 20:45   ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]   ` <E1I5oq4-0004sc-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
2007-07-03 21:20     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <8CIbE-3y1-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <8CJKt-62G-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <8CKZS-7Ur-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <8CLjc-8iq-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <8CO7m-4k4-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-07-03 12:03         ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found] <20070703042916.GA17240@srcf.ucam.org>
     [not found] ` <200707031608.06348.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
     [not found]   ` <1183447184.10386.102.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-03  7:44     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]     ` <200707030944.18702.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-03 10:47       ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]       ` <E1I5fug-0003ZS-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
2007-07-03 11:07         ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]         ` <200707031307.41366.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-03 11:22           ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]           ` <E1I5gSu-0003f4-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
2007-07-03 11:27             ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]             ` <200707031327.56577.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-03 11:45               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]               ` <1183463113.10386.114.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-03 11:50                 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-05  0:02             ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-03 11:44           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-03 11:55             ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]             ` <200707031355.51028.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-03 23:40               ` Paul Mackerras
     [not found]               ` <18058.56956.595143.15424@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2007-07-04  7:02                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-04  8:02                   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-07-04  8:26                     ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                     ` <E1I60CR-00066n-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
2007-07-04 10:26                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-03 12:58           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-03 15:46           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-03 11:23       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-07-03 11:40       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-03 11:46         ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-03 13:07           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]       ` <18058.12724.163599.707035@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2007-07-03 11:42         ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-03 23:11           ` Paul Mackerras
     [not found]           ` <18058.55215.185633.434117@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2007-07-04  8:11             ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]             ` <200707041011.33279.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-04  8:27               ` Paul Mackerras
     [not found]               ` <18059.23015.860618.268754@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2007-07-04  8:39                 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                 ` <200707041039.30015.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-04  9:21                   ` Paul Mackerras
     [not found]                   ` <18059.26259.765791.62319@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2007-07-04 10:08                     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                     ` <200707041208.40735.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-04 10:46                       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-07-04 10:53                         ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-04 10:59                           ` Paul Mackerras
     [not found]                           ` <18059.32169.906914.258802@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2007-07-04 11:02                             ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-04 14:44             ` Alan Stern
2007-07-03 15:58         ` Alan Stern
2007-07-04  4:02           ` Paul Mackerras
     [not found]     ` <200707031456.40890.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-03 14:21       ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]       ` <1183472474.3722.13.camel@johannes.berg>
2007-07-03 14:50         ` Alan Stern
2007-07-03 14:59           ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]           ` <1183474748.3722.33.camel@johannes.berg>
2007-07-03 15:22             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-03 17:38               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-03 20:54                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-03 20:21             ` Alan Stern
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707031609070.7671-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-04  4:59               ` Paul Mackerras
2007-07-04 14:57                 ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707041045150.25704-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2007-07-05  0:23                   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-07-05  6:58                     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                     ` <200707050858.03638.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-05  8:17                       ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                       ` <E1I6MWb-0008Tq-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
2007-07-05  8:24                         ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                         ` <200707051024.23528.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-05  8:41                           ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                           ` <E1I6Mtu-000058-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
2007-07-05  8:48                             ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                             ` <200707051048.46202.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-05  8:58                               ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                               ` <E1I6NAH-00008t-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
2007-07-05 10:02                                 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                 ` <200707051202.59375.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-05 10:14                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-05 11:40                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                     ` <200707051340.41901.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-05 11:54                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-05 13:23                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                         ` <200707051523.44826.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-05 13:28                                           ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                           ` <200707051528.34754.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-05 13:46                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-05 14:02                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                             ` <20070705134632.GA22177@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-07-05 14:09                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                               ` <200707051609.25887.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-05 14:23                                                 ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                 ` <20070705142318.GA22598@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-07-05 14:46                                                   ` Ray Lee
2007-07-05 14:59                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                                   ` <2c0942db0707050746v2b8cdc9ew2c4656736b52895d@mail.gmail.com>
2007-07-05 15:00                                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-05 16:06                                                   ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-06  5:45                                                   ` Daniel Pittman
2007-07-05 22:38                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-06  7:04                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-06  7:30                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-05  9:18                         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                         ` <20070705091801.GB3084@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-07-05  9:31                           ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                           ` <E1I6NgZ-0000F6-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
2007-07-05 11:54                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-05 11:58                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                             ` <20070705115400.GF3984@ucw.cz>
2007-07-05 12:07                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-05 13:28                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-05 19:38                                 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                 ` <200707052138.56920.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-05 19:44                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                                   ` <E1I6XFM-0001ek-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
2007-07-05 20:19                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-05 20:34                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-05 20:46                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-05 20:49                                         ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                         ` <200707052249.45495.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-05 20:53                                           ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-05 21:06                                           ` Alan Stern
2007-07-05 21:07                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                                     ` <200707052220.00555.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-05 20:38                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-05 21:01                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-05 23:05                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-06  3:59                                       ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-06  7:32                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-07 12:17                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-07 20:42                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                             ` <200707051358.26963.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-05 12:24                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-05 13:31                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                 ` <200707051531.37532.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-05 13:50                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                                   ` <E1I6RjE-0000pP-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
2007-07-05 14:14                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                     ` <200707051614.19300.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-05 14:14                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-05 22:04                             ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                             ` <20070705220444.GD3881@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-07-06  7:07                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-07 12:19                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-06  7:16                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-05 14:23                     ` Alan Stern
2007-07-04  3:55           ` Paul Mackerras
2007-07-03 14:51         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-03 14:48           ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]       ` <1183497290.3388.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]         ` <200707032332.49694.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-04  3:29           ` Paul Mackerras
     [not found]           ` <18059.5165.861038.392332@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2007-07-04 10:33             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-04 10:48               ` Paul Mackerras
     [not found]               ` <18059.31464.183382.358931@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2007-07-04 11:10                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                 ` <200707041310.11336.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-04 11:24                   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-07-04 14:30                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <200707041630.30048.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-05  0:15                       ` Paul Mackerras
     [not found]                       ` <18060.14341.341604.666867@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2007-07-05 11:54                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-07 12:09                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-04 11:25                   ` Paul Mackerras
     [not found] ` <200707031454.42078.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
     [not found]   ` <1183441706.10386.73.camel@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]     ` <20070705000301.GE2719@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-07-05  0:46       ` Paul Mackerras

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1183712354.3388.126.camel@localhost.localdomain \
    --to=benh@kernel.crashing.org \
    --cc=johannes@sipsolutions.net \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=miklos@szeredi.hu \
    --cc=mjg59@srcf.ucam.org \
    --cc=pavel@ucw.cz \
    --cc=rjw@sisk.pl \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox