From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>
To: "Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>
Cc: u.luckas@road.de, swetland@google.com,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/9] PM: suspend_block: Abort task freezing if a suspend_blocker is active.
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:06:42 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1241744802.19600.244.camel@nigel-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6200be20905071649h2d3a57c8h1c1cd72d4bea4d31@mail.gmail.com>
Hi.
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 16:49 -0700, Arve Hjønnevåg wrote:
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> > If the code runs for 20 seconds, it is a bug to be fixed.
>
> The code gives up after 20 seconds, it does not normally run for 20
> seconds. It is arguably a bug that it gives up after 20 seconds since
> the time required to freeze all the threads grows with the number of
> threads that are running. It could still be making progress after 20
> seconds. Since the time required to freeze all tasks is the number of
> tasks times the time it takes to interrupt each task there is no way
> to ensure that the time required is insignificant. If we do not abort
> task freezing when there is a wakeup event, then the worst case wakeup
> latency is guarantied to be worse than the worst case latency for any
> other uninterruptible kernel call.
I agree with Pavel here. If freezing takes 20 seconds, something is
wrong. (Remember that most tasks will not be running, and will therefore
respond to the pseudo-signal and freeze immediately).
In fact, I'd go further. In the thousands of times I've run the freezer
over the years, it has never taken more than 1 second - let alone 20 -
when freezing has been successful. A delay of 20 seconds was more
relevant when the value included the time for syncing data to disk.
Regards,
Nigel
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-06 4:18 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Suspend block api (version 3) Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-06 4:18 ` [PATCH 1/9] PM: Add suspend block api Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-06 4:18 ` [PATCH 2/9] PM: suspend_block: Add driver to access suspend blockers from user-space Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-05 20:12 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 1:42 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-07 10:32 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08 0:43 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-08 14:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-09 0:38 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-05 20:16 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 1:31 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-07 10:43 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-06 4:18 ` [PATCH 3/9] PM: suspend_block: Abort task freezing if a suspend_blocker is active Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-05 19:57 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 1:51 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-07 10:41 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 23:49 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-08 1:06 ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2009-05-08 1:22 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-08 1:35 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 14:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 22:27 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 23:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-09 0:12 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-12 10:05 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-12 16:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-12 19:33 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-12 10:04 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08 0:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 4:18 ` [PATCH 4/9] Input: Block suspend while event queue is not empty Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-05 20:02 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 1:57 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-06 4:18 ` [PATCH 5/9] PM: suspend_block: Switch to list of active and inactive suspend blockers Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-06 4:18 ` [PATCH 6/9] PM: suspend_block: Add debugfs file Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-06 4:18 ` [PATCH 7/9] PM: suspend_block: Add suspend_blocker stats Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-06 4:18 ` [PATCH 8/9] PM: suspend_block: Add timeout support Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-06 4:18 ` [PATCH 9/9] PM: suspend_block: Add timeout support to user-space suspend_blockers Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-06 17:17 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Suspend block api (version 3) Kevin Hilman
2009-05-07 22:42 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-05-08 16:01 ` mark gross
2009-05-08 23:36 ` Kevin Hilman
2009-05-15 19:58 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] <1271984938-13920-1-git-send-email-arve@android.com>
[not found] ` <1271984938-13920-2-git-send-email-arve@android.com>
2010-04-23 1:08 ` [PATCH 2/9] PM: suspend_block: Add driver to access suspend blockers from user-space Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-04-23 1:08 ` [PATCH 3/9] PM: suspend_block: Abort task freezing if a suspend_blocker is active Arve Hjønnevåg
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-30 3:09 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Suspend block api (version 2) Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-04-30 3:10 ` [PATCH 1/9] PM: Add suspend block api Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-04-30 3:10 ` [PATCH 2/9] PM: suspend_block: Add driver to access suspend blockers from user-space Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-04-30 3:10 ` [PATCH 3/9] PM: suspend_block: Abort task freezing if a suspend_blocker is active Arve Hjønnevåg
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