From: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUGFIX] PM: Fix active child counting when disabled and forbidden
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:08:28 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1352855308.7176.232.camel@yhuang-dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1211131102330.1292-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 11:10 -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, Huang Ying wrote:
>
> > > This is not quite right. Consider a device that is in runtime suspend
> > > when a system sleep starts. When the system sleep ends, the device
> > > will be resumed but the PM core will still think its state is
> > > SUSPENDED. The subsystem has to tell the PM core that the device is
> > > now ACTIVE. Currently, subsystems do this by calling
> > > pm_runtime_disable, pm_runtime_set_active, pm_runtime_enable. Under
> > > your scheme this wouldn't work; the pm_runtime_set_active call would
> > > fail because the device was !forbidden.
> >
> > Thanks for your information. For this specific situation, is it
> > possible to call pm_runtime_resume() or pm_request_resume() for the
> > device?
>
> No, because the device already is at full power. The subsystem just
> needs to tell the PM core that it is.
>
> > > > PM. Device can always work with full power.
> > >
> > > It can't if the parent is in SUSPEND. If necessary, the user can write
> > > "on" to the parent's power/control attribute first.
> >
> > Is it possible to call pm_runtime_set_active() for the parent if the
> > parent is disabled and SUSPENDED.
>
> Doing that is possible, but it might not work. The parent might
> actually be at low power; calling pm_runtime_set_active wouldn't change
> the physical power level. Basically, it's not safe to assume anything
> about devices that are disabled for runtime PM.
>
> > It appears that there is race condition between this and the
> > pm_runtime_disable, pm_runtime_set_active, pm_runtime_enable sequence
> > you mentioned ealier.
> >
> > thread 1 thread 2
> > pm_runtime_disable
> > pm_runtime_set_active
> > pm_runtime_allow
> > pm_runtime_set_suspended
> > pm_runtime_enable
>
> This can't happen in the situation I described earlier because during
> system sleep transitions, no other user threads are allowed to run.
> All of them except the one actually carrying out the transition are
> frozen.
Thanks for your kind explanation.
After talking with you, my feeling is that the disabled state is obscure
and error-prone. So I suggest not to use it if possible. Maybe we can
- make changes suggested by Alan to make disabled state better.
- use Rafael's solution to solve this specific issue, and avoid the
usage of disabled state here.
Best Regards,
Huang Ying
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-14 1:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-05 1:17 [BUGFIX] PM: Fix active child counting when disabled and forbidden Huang Ying
2012-11-05 1:56 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-06 0:43 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-06 15:17 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-07 0:26 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-07 15:49 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-07 16:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-07 17:17 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-07 20:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-07 20:47 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-07 21:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-07 21:56 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-07 22:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-07 23:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-08 1:15 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-08 1:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-08 2:04 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-08 9:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-08 17:07 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-09 2:36 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-09 16:41 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-12 0:37 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-12 2:36 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-12 5:55 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-12 16:32 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-13 1:19 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-13 2:32 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-13 5:12 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-13 16:10 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-14 1:08 ` Huang Ying [this message]
2012-11-14 9:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14 13:35 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-14 16:06 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-13 23:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14 10:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14 16:42 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-14 19:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14 21:45 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-14 23:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-15 1:03 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-15 9:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-15 10:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-15 15:27 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-16 0:36 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-16 0:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-16 0:48 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-16 0:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-16 0:54 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-16 1:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-16 1:27 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-16 10:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-16 3:11 ` Huang Ying
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