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From: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
To: peterz@infradead.org, mingo@kernel.org
Cc: rjw@rjwysocki.net, markgross@thegnar.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	morten.rasmussen@arm.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [3/11] issue 3: No understanding of potential cpu capacity
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 16:45:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1387557951-21750-4-git-send-email-morten.rasmussen@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1387557951-21750-1-git-send-email-morten.rasmussen@arm.com>

To minimize energy it may sometimes be better to put waking tasks on
partially loaded cpus instead of powering up more cpus (particularly if
it implies powering up a new cluster/group of cpus with associated
caches). To make that call, information about the potential spare cycles
on the busy cpus is required.

Currently, the CFS scheduler has no knowledge about frequency scaling.
Frequency scaling governors generally try to match the frequency to
the load, which means that the idle time has no absolute meaning. The
potential spare cpu capacity may be much higher than indicated by the
idle time if the cpu is running at a low P-state.

The energy trade-off may justify putting another task on a loaded cpu
even if it causes a change to a higher P-state to handle the extra load.
Related issues are frequency (and cpu micro architecture) invariant task
load and power topology information, which are both needed to enable the
scheduler for energy-aware task placement. This is covered in more
detail in issue 5.

The potential cpu capacity cannot be assumed to be constant as thermal
management may restrict the usage of high performance P-states
dynamically.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-20 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-20 16:45 [0/11] Energy-aware scheduling use-cases and scheduler issues Morten Rasmussen
2013-12-20 16:45 ` [1/11] issue 1: Missing power topology information in scheduler Morten Rasmussen
2013-12-22 15:19   ` mark gross
2013-12-30 14:00     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-13 20:23       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-01-14 16:21         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-14 17:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-20 16:45 ` [2/11] issue 2: Energy-awareness for heterogeneous systems Morten Rasmussen
2013-12-20 16:45 ` Morten Rasmussen [this message]
2013-12-20 16:45 ` [4/11] issue 4: Tracking idle states Morten Rasmussen
2013-12-20 16:45 ` [5/11] issue 5: Frequency and uarch invariant task load Morten Rasmussen
2013-12-20 16:45 ` [6/11] issue 6: Poor and non-deterministic performance on heterogeneous systems Morten Rasmussen
2013-12-20 16:45 ` [7/11] use-case 1: Webbrowsing on Android Morten Rasmussen
2013-12-20 16:45 ` [8/11] use-case 2: Audio playback " Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 12:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-07 12:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-07 16:02       ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 15:55     ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-12-20 16:45 ` [9/11] use-case 3: Video " Morten Rasmussen
2013-12-20 16:45 ` [10/11] use-case 4: Game " Morten Rasmussen
2013-12-20 16:45 ` [11/11] system 1: Saving energy using DVFS Morten Rasmussen
2013-12-22 16:28 ` [0/11] Energy-aware scheduling use-cases and scheduler issues mark gross
2013-12-30 12:10   ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-12 16:47     ` mark gross
2014-01-13 12:04       ` Catalin Marinas
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-01-07 16:19 [0/11][REPOST] " Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [3/11] issue 3: No understanding of potential cpu capacity Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-13 21:07   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-01-14 10:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-14 16:39     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-14 16:51       ` Peter Zijlstra

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