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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Doug Smythies <dsmythies@telus.net>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	"Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arto Jantunen <viiru@iki.fi>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cpuidle: use high confidence factors only when considering polling
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 17:26:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1458336363.14723.43.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0hOeFjj6d0jV+6aFtdkAk_ocH=K-KS5NSQ1P0-kqdnRkg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Fri, 2016-03-18 at 22:24 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:32:28 -0700
> > "Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 2016.03.18 06:12 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I'm wondering what happens if you replace the expected_interval
> > > > in the
> > > > "expected_interval >
> > > > drv->states[CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START].target_residency" test
> > > > with
> > > > data->next_timer_us (with the Rik's patch applied, of
> > > > course).  Can
> > > > you please try doing that?
> > > O.K. my reference: rvr6 is the above modification to rvr5
> > > It works as well as "reverted"/
> > > 
> > > State k45rc7-rjw10-rvr6 (mins)
> > > 0.00  0.87
> > > 1.00  24.20
> > > 2.00  4.05
> > > 3.00  1.72
> > > 4.00  147.50
> > > 
> > > total 178.34
> > > 
> > > Energy:
> > > Kernel 4.5-rc7-rjw10-rvr6: 55864 Joules
> > > 
> > > Trace data (very crude summary):
> > > Kernel 4.5-rc7-rjw10-rvr5: ~3049 long durations at high CPU load
> > > (idle state 0)
> > > Kernel 4.5-rc7-rjw10-rvr5: ~183 long durations at high, but less,
> > > CPU load (not all idle state 0)
> > What does "long duration" mean?
> > Dozens of microseconds?
> > Hundreds of microseconds?
> > Milliseconds?
> > 
> > Either way, it appears there is something wrong with the
> > code in get_typical_interval.  One of the problems is
> > that calculating in microseconds, when working with a
> > threshold of 1-2 microseconds is not going to work well,
> > and secondly the code declares success the moment the
> > standard deviation is below 20 microseconds, which is
> > also not the best idea when dealing with 1-2 microsecond
> > thresholds :)
> Well, that might be the reason why 20 was used in the original
> data->next_timer_us test ...

Good point, and it looks like Doug's problem is something
else.  Let me send a test patch for Doug in another email...

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-18 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-01 17:51 SKL BOOT FAILURE unless idle=nomwait (was Re: PROBLEM: Cpufreq constantly keeps frequency at maximum on 4.5-rc4) Len Brown
     [not found] ` <87si087tsr.fsf@iki.fi>
2016-03-02 17:10   ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-08 21:13     ` Len Brown
2016-03-08 21:19   ` Len Brown
2016-03-09 17:01     ` Arto Jantunen
2016-03-09 23:03       ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-09 23:18         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-09 23:45           ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-09 23:59             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-11 14:03               ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-11 18:22                 ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-11 20:30                   ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-11 23:54                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-12  0:46                       ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-12  1:45                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-12  2:02                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-13  7:46                             ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-14  1:32                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-14  6:39                                 ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-14 12:47                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-14 14:31                                     ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-14 15:21                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-14 17:45                                         ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-14 22:55                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-15  2:03                                             ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-16  0:32                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16  0:37                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16  0:55                                                 ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-16  1:53                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 13:02                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 14:01                                                       ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-16 14:14                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 14:46                                                           ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-16 15:05                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 15:07                                                               ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-16 15:09                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 16:14                                                                   ` [PATCH] cpuidle: use high confidence factors only when considering polling Rik van Riel
2016-03-18  0:45                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-18  6:32                                                                       ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-18 13:11                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-18 18:32                                                                           ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-18 19:29                                                                             ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-18 20:59                                                                               ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-18 21:24                                                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-18 21:26                                                                                 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2016-03-18 23:40                                                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-18 21:35                                                                             ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-18 21:48                                                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-18 21:52                                                                                 ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-18 22:09                                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-18 22:28                                                                                     ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-18 23:29                                                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-18 21:56                                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-18 22:38                                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-18 22:56                                                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-19  1:53                                                                                 ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-19  2:06                                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-19  2:17                                                                                     ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-19  2:33                                                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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